Harry and Meghan-part 2

[BertrandRussell]

Following on from this -it was just getting interesting. Someone posted about how Meghan called herself a feminist but hadn’t earned the title. I was interested to know how you earned the title- but the thread ended.

How the hell do people on here know how much meghan spends??

Um, that’s sort of what the thread was all about in the first place. It was presented in the recent palace accounts that MM and PH spent 2.4 million on renovations and its still a work in progress.

I love that for the Royal Family “recycling” means wearing the same frock twice!

As I said-I know the provenance of the piano. But she chose to sit in front of it. It’s the optics, innit?

My impression of Meghan is she will do thing's her way regardless, wether its a good thing or not remains to be seen, it just might backfire on her,
Yes MM and PH have received £2.4m for house renovations and its still work in progress will end up costing a hell of a lot more

“My impression of Meghan is she will do thing's her way regardless,”

Now i’ve seen this said a lot. Can you give some examples? Because it seems to me thy she has been disappointingly conformist!

Now i’ve seen this said a lot. Can you give some examples? Because it seems to me thy she has been disappointingly conformist!
There's far too many to mention, if examples were given,it would be easy (for someone so inclined, to explain them away, and probably be sarcastic and ridicule the poster) but there are literally loads of examples. You have to look at the big picture. If you choose to ignore them, fine, who cares. But conformist she isn't.

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What I don't understand is all this love for Kate. She's an equally big spend thrift. Why do people compare the two women. Both living extravagant lives at the taxpayer s expense, just like the greedy family they've married in to. Shameful.

Is the Queen a feminist?

I thought the queen’s father was supposed to have had a very loving relationship with his children?

Yes it's documented that they were very close. But it's also relevant that the girls were 10 and 6 when the abdication happened and they were catapulted into the "top job". They'd had all those years of comparative relaxation, thinking that George was a second son and not expected to rule. Very different for the Queen who brought up her children knowing that she was destined to rule. I think it would affect her demeanor with them .

“but there are literally loads of examples.“

Surely you could come up with a couple, then? I understand about the bigger picture- but i’d Like to understand what contributes to the bigger picture. Do you mean things like going bare legged and wearing coloured nail polish?

You can’t say ‘there are loads of examples’ and then fail to mention any. That’s not making an argument.

We know very little about the lives of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (apart from the renovation of Frogmore). I don't believe tabloid tittle tattle and try to avoid it. As far as what Meghan spends on clothes, she has her own money but couture houses often don't charge prominent people because of the kudos they receive from kitting them out.

To me, it appears that she hasn't put a foot wrong so far. I sincerely hope she doesn't read all the stuff that is said about her and I wonder if she misses her old life.

Harry is lovely, very well meaning.

Agree Kate is equally a bit spendthrift. She's just been a tiny bit less blatant about it. They're all spendthrifts.

To be honest, if I'd married into that incredible amount of wealth and privilege I'd probably be like MM - splashing it around with great enjoyment. It would be such a contrast to what I am used to - I'd go all out. Probably wear a tiara around the cottage/mansion/apartment/whatever just for the sheer thrill of it.

And as usual, someone is here to say that the Queen is frugal and disapproves of vulgarity. That gold piano is an absolute demonstration of vulgarity. I bet she's not sending the palace chef down to Lidl or Aldi to save a few pence.

should be big not bit spendthrift

WhT about Harry?? Are we assuming Meghan is making all the financial decisions In their little family ? Why are we sure it’s not Harry and his family we should be scrutinising ?

Are we sure she isn’t getting bossed about in what she does in her house like many women with powerful in laws who are nosey??

Given the spending habits of the prince of Wales I think it's absolutely at Harry and William that we should be looking for the drivers behind the spend.....

Isn't feminism about your right to choose your path as a woman? She had a career. Had spoken out for women's rights, spoke against the molester-in-chief and now chooses to marry and be a mother. What's not feminist about her again?

Is a feminist supposed to stay single, not shave their legs and stand outside the Houses of Parliament railing against all that is wrong with the world ?

Just say you don't like her and leave it at that. Don't turn it into she's fake because she's not really a feminist

It’s just many women feel like it’s more within their reach to control other women and scrutinise them ...

While we compete for the imaginary trophy Male figure who we fantacised about being more worthy of and attach our own value to that fantasy.

And then we are here on a thread judging someone else’s feminism stances ..

The irony..

I've always thought it would be fun if instead of the £1.24 or whatever figure it is we all contribute per year, that money should be put in a pot and once a year a lucky family win a lottery that lets them live the royal life. They get the palaces, the limos, the holidays etc. You'd have to give up at the end of the year tho, to let the next lucky winners take over.

I realise that this is a slight thread derail so I will shut up now

“I'd probably be like MM - splashing it around with great enjoyment. ”

Again- how is she “splashing it around”?

In fact I think she is probably becoming a symbol of what Feminism exists. The amount of scrutany she receives exposes society in my opinion... it needs bloody fixing up...

It’s meghan today.. but it’s any other woman joining a powerful family the next day... Dils being judged and blamed for things that is the responsibility of both them and their spouses... interfering and scrutinising to control a woman whilethr men are left to live their lives unjudged...

So society, I think you are being fake.. not Meghan

And to be honest Meghan would probably have been able to do a better job at presenting feminism if women out there stop shifting her focus on constantly having to protect herself from defamation and rumours.

If she was gonna be a feminism icon, I don’t this we are facilitating that and I’m not sure we deserve her to be speaking in our name
When we have done nothing but tear her down.

Some random thoughts

Anyone seen the infamous barbecue video? Not very 'feminist'.

To me she comes across as insincere; her pre marriage 'humanitarian' efforts were negligible and PR driven.

Her blog was cringe making, and their Instagram account is tone deaf.

She spends obscene amounts on clothes.