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To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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Rainbowsandglitterbullshit · 28/06/2019 18:26

The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

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mumsneedwine · 28/06/2019 19:08

Worked out I taught 165 students today. 5 classes and a clinic at break. Oh and am tutor to a further 32. And I know all their names by this time of the year. Have a different set of 150 tomorrow 😁.

mamaduckbone · 28/06/2019 19:09

Langkaw - absolutely spot on Grin

Chanteuse · 28/06/2019 19:09

I do hope we won't be seeing any moaning 2 weeks in to the summer holidays... "Gosh, when do the kids go back? So tired, so stressful organising constant activities for them!!" (!)

thetwinkles · 28/06/2019 19:10

Yes I'm tired.

Tired of the fact that they've not done any proper school work post SATs it's all sports and other activities etc.

Tired that despite the above I can't take my child out of school in term time.

Tired that I work full time. Pregnant with twins and now stuck on a delayed train on a Friday night because some moron stole the cabling from the lines.

The moaning teachers finished for the day not long after 15:30 didn't they?

Disclaimer- grumpy, pregnant, hot and tired Wink

mbosnz · 28/06/2019 19:10

I find it quite odd that I don't buy stationery over here. (I'd be quite happy to, up to and including glue sticks and tissues).

DontFundHate · 28/06/2019 19:11

You do know teachers dont get paid for holidays?

Eaudear · 28/06/2019 19:11

and they churn out the same lessons every year.

Oh bless your naivety! You haven't spent any time in a school since you were at school have you....

As I always say, there is a massive recruitment and retention crisis in teaching at the moment. For a job that has 13 weeks holiday, a relatively very good pension, is pretty secure and should be a piece of piss once you have been doing it a few years, that is very strange don't you think?

mbosnz · 28/06/2019 19:12

And it's really silly to tell teachers to fuck off and go get another job then when it's incredibly hard to fill the posts as they stand - particularly in specialist and STEM positions. . ..

And then of course we whinge because we've got a Maths teacher that doesn't know maths. . .

SoupDragon · 28/06/2019 19:12

The moaning teachers finished for the day not long after 15:30 didn't they?

Lololol. Yeah, right.

Bluerussian · 28/06/2019 19:12

Teaching is very hard work and stressful so I'm not surprised teachers are tired. As for the long holidays, they usually have to in at beginning and end and do work during the holidays, preparation and stuff. They can't teach a subject or subjects if they haven't done the prep and some of it will be new to them. Your post is written from an ignorant point of view, op and anyway, the tiredness of teachers is not diminishing or taking away from the tiredness of other jobs.

Rainbowsandglitterbullshit · 28/06/2019 19:13

For everyone wanting the example!

To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts
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Flurgle · 28/06/2019 19:13

There’s a couple of reasons teachers are leaving in droves.
One is workload, another is parents. I’ve seen teachers driven to the bloody edge by parents. And I’m pretty sure quitting a job you’ve trained years for isn’t a decision taken lightly because you’re a whingy old cow. It’ll be the parents that do drive me out not the kids. Every little thing, pick pick pick. You get free education in this country, yet they treat us like we are scum. We get sworn at, threatened, hounded on social media.
We don’t claim it’s the hardest job just bloody fed up with everyone thinking it’s easy.
If you want 6 weeks off in the summer you do the training. I’m looking forward to my holidays after the hardest year ever- all because of parents. Let the countdown begin.

Eaudear · 28/06/2019 19:14

The moaning teachers finished for the day not long after 15:30 didn't they?

Did they?

IceRebel · 28/06/2019 19:15

I do hope we won't be seeing any moaning 2 weeks in to the summer holidays... "Gosh, when do the kids go back? So tired, so stressful organising constant activities for them!!" (!)

I said the same earlier in the thread. I look forward to seeing how quickly they start appearing once the holidays start, I think we only made it a week last year before one popped up.

TheVandalsTookTheHandles · 28/06/2019 19:16

As for the fuckwit who thinks it's the same lessons every year: no fucking way, no one would pass their PMR if they did that!

Yes it is. I have 3 kids at the same school and they've all brought home exactly the same homework etc each year. So I can't see where the dreaded lesson planning comes in. They just regurgitate the same lessons each year. Which is fine by me but don't moan about it jesus.

recrudescence · 28/06/2019 19:17

Every little thing, pick pick pick ... they treat us like we are scum.

And this thread is a good example.

IceRebel · 28/06/2019 19:17

For everyone wanting the example!

I think you misunderstood. No one claimed memes like that don't exist. What they were doubting, was a teacher posting to say that their job was the hardest.

BelleSausage · 28/06/2019 19:18

Thanks for helping with recruitment and retention OP. Keep those spirits up!

I teach in an Outstanding school in a leafy, desirable, middle class area and we cannot fill teaching posts in Maths and Science. The school are even offering bonuses to get people in. Nada. Nothing. Not a sausage.

All the people who love to have a good moan about teachers should have a good think about how they devalue the profession to the next generation. Why would any of them want to teach when they hear your disgusting attitude.

nomushrooms · 28/06/2019 19:18

work 8-6 like the rest of us

Yes I do work this - well, 7.30-5.30. Then after I’ve collected DD from MIL I put her to bed then work 7.30-11. Then minimum three hours on each a Saturday and a Sunday. During report/parents evening/moderation season I then usually pull a couple of almost all nighters to catch up.

I DON’T claim to have the hardest job in the world. I PREFER to condense my working hours over 39 weeks rather than 47 now I’m a parent. BUT it does mean I am pretty tired by the end of 7 solid weeks of these hours (I don’t post about it on SM although). Maybe not more tired than anyone else, but it’s certainly not an easy job and no teacher in the country can ever say the money makes up for it!

BelleSausage · 28/06/2019 19:19

@TheVandalsTookTheHandles

I can’t believe anyone is this dim. Surely an act!

CandlesOnTheHearth · 28/06/2019 19:20

It isn't so much that we are tired from working 8am - 6pm in school every day; nor that we are also tired from additionally working from 9pm - 11pm 5/7 evening a week; nor that we are tired from spending at least one day at the weekend also working.

It's also that the children are tired. They are cranky. They fall out; they fight; they cry; they are reluctant to work; and we have to use all of our reserves to encourge, cajole, jolly them along and mediate. It's like being a teacher/social worker/nurse/counsellor/children's party entertainer for 6 hours a day to 30 different people, sometimes simultaneously, every day.

I can have 5 children in front of me. One needs the teacher, one needs the nurse, one needs the social worker, one needs the counsellor and the other one just needs the clown and I have to be all of those. And that doesn't include the time I spend doing up top buttons, tying shoelaces and listening to the stories of what grandma said last night or what the new puppy did or where they're going on holiday in the summer.

And then I have to ensure that every child meets the objective for each lesson every day.

Most days, I don't have time for lunch so I'm running on empty all afternoon. And on days when I am on playground duty both morning and afternoon and run a club at lunchtime (lunch is 45 mins - and I also have to use that time to set up the classroom for the afternoon), I don't drink because, if I forget/don't get chance to fill my water bottle up before 8.30, I won't get change again and, even if I do, I won't have chance to go for a wee before 3.30pm!

I don't know of any other job (other than A&E nurses) when people are are required to perform at the top of their game for their entire working week without being able to drink or go for a wee when they need to!

And then, quite often, there is a meeting at the end of the day when we are told we need to do more.

Bloody love it but, yes, this final stretch is fucking exhausting! Grin

WeWantSweet · 28/06/2019 19:21

At least let them have this, as on a scale of how important your job is to society as opposed to how much you are paid, they belong, with others, in the don't get paid enough category.

Dahlietta · 28/06/2019 19:25

I'm a teacher and lots of my social media friends are teachers. I have never seen any of them post anything like this - it does seem tedious. YANBU about the social media posts, though some of the people on here are unreasonable about teaching Wink

DuckWillow · 28/06/2019 19:25

FFS!

OP I have an autistic son .

He has only survived school because of wonderful teachers who have gone above and beyond the call of duty to support him.

This has included stuff in their lunch breaks, after school has finished (attending meetings with me) and offering to help my son in a myriad of ways. A teacher actually offered to camp overnight with my son in school to help him prepare for a residential away from me. All in her own time and without pay! It didn’t work as he wouldn’t do it but it meant the world to me that she offered.

So seeing all the stupid fucking women on here moaning about six week holidays and “I wish teachers would stop moaning” pisses me off.

None of you has any REAL idea of how good teachers can be and how hard most of them work. You do realise that just because your little darling leaves school at 3pm doesn’t mean the teacher does too right?

If it’s such a cushy fucking job then go and train and perhaps you’ll realise then WHY most teachers leave the job within five years.

But that would involve you taking a reality check so I doubt you’d bother.

To any teachers reading this thread.

Here’s to the end of term and a well earned break.

Most parents DO actually support you . Some parents though are thick self entitled wankers who will never have a clue as long as they have a hole in their arse. But you know that already. The OP is one of them as are several other posters here.

They likely have non autistic/non disabled kids and so take life for fucking granted along with teachers.

Strokethefurrywall · 28/06/2019 19:26

Having withstood the torture that is listening to my 5 year old phonetically sound out every Biff and Chip book under the sun (badly), I think his kindergarten teacher deserves a fucking medal.

No way I could do that for 25+ kids with questionable toileting skills whilst simultaneously attempting to mould them into something vaguely resembling an emotionally stable human being with half decent social skills.

I work in a very stressful job, but I report to one committee. A teacher not only reports to a teaching committee but judging by some of the bizarre threads I've read on here, has to bloody answer to the parents too.

So whilst I wouldn't say they have the hardest job in the world (which surely depends on the benchmark you set), teaching is probably the least appealing job for me and is no doubt exhausting, with very little pay.

And thank god for teachers, who despite the above, consistently advocate for the education they're providing, because it's a vocation.

Nobody goes into teaching for the money, but the best teachers are worth their weight in gold honestly.