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To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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Rainbowsandglitterbullshit · 28/06/2019 18:26

The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

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CandlesOnTheHearth · 28/06/2019 19:26

There are far more stressful work environments than a job with a bunch of children

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BlueCornsihPixie · 28/06/2019 19:27

I don't think this is a teacher bashing post though.

I do think teachers have a tendency (tbh mostly on MN) to act like their job is harder than anyone else's.

Both my parents are teachers, and have been for nearly 40 years now. Their job is hard, and I certainly know people who's jobs are a lot easier. However I also know people whose jobs are harder or equally as tough, and I do think teachers can have the blinkers on a bit.

Comments like "I got to go for a wee at 3.20 for the first time" regular occurrence in my job as well as many others

"You can never switch off" again any patient, person to person based role is the same.

"We work in the evenings" again lots of jobs work in the evenings.

I'm not saying teachers dont work hard, but some teachers I think have a Lack of insight into other people's lives, and how hard they might work.

Even posts on here saying "you don't understand how draining it is" actually I think I do.

My mum was a TA in a failing primary for a while when we were little, and that was really rough for her, she worked incredibly hard. Funnily the people who moaned the most were the ones doing the least work! Where she and one or two others were picking up the slack for other members of staff, who would say they'd been working till 8pm last night and would turn up and exect my mum to cover their lessons with no plan, no marking and my mum would think where? I think she worked hardest when she was a TA not when she was a teacher!

Im not saying teachers don't work hard, but sometimes sm posts like this bring out the rage in me!

Maggiejags · 28/06/2019 19:28

@Rainbowsandglitterbullshit

You sound like you're angry about a lot. What exactly are you looking for on here?

HermioneWeasley · 28/06/2019 19:28

I can’t bear the FB gloating from every teacher at the start of the summer holidays.

TheVandalsTookTheHandles · 28/06/2019 19:28

@BelleSausage

Aye ok if you like 😂

YouJustDoYou · 28/06/2019 19:28

I have several crotchgoblins.I can't imagine having this for an actual job for the rest of my working life.they can complain all they want - I don't blame them at all. It's not a competition about who had it worse, you know.

fedup21 · 28/06/2019 19:28

work 8-6 like the rest of us

I work 7.30-5.30. Not sure what your point is?

ScrambledToe · 28/06/2019 19:28

You are never more than 8 weeks away from a holiday as a teacher. But you work at least one weekend day and most evenings up to that point so it’s time in lieu.

DarlingNikita · 28/06/2019 19:28

IME of having a parent who's a teacher, the 'holidays' are nothing of the sort; that's when you do all the work you don't have time to do in term-time.

AltheaVestr1t · 28/06/2019 19:29

Teachers do quit. In droves. We have a huge national teacher retention crisis, and teachers have some of the highest incidences of mental health issues compared to any other workforce. I used to be a primary teacher, now work 40+ hours a week in publishing, for lower pay, with 28 days annual leave (not including bank holidays). There’s no doubt in my mind which represents a better work-life balance and stress to pay ratio.

Grumpbum123 · 28/06/2019 19:29

I not only think my sons teacher needs a long holiday I think she needs a massive pay rise. 30 small children in a very middle class area with 30 parents that think their child is the next Steven Hawkings hassling her at every moment as to what reading band their child is on. She replies with grace and a smile I think she’s bloody wondrful

CandlesOnTheHearth · 28/06/2019 19:29

DuckWillow

Thank you ❤️

And your son's teacher sounds awesome!!

Foo2 · 28/06/2019 19:29

YANBU Op

Basketofkittens · 28/06/2019 19:30

All jobs are crap. The end.

floraloctopus · 28/06/2019 19:31

I teach all day, come home and work until about 10pm planning or marking and am at work at half seven. Yes, I'm tired. I spent all weekend report writing so this week I have worked 65 hours this week ignoring report writing. What hours do you work op?

peachgreen · 28/06/2019 19:31

I've worked 14 hour days in a high stress City job. I've had a small baby with reflux and a dairy allergy who only slept on me. Neither of those were as exhausting, soul-destroying and unrewarding as the year I spent teaching.

Allhailthesun · 28/06/2019 19:32

The moaning partly comes because teachers have zero control over their work environment and the holidays are at set times.
So inevitably they are counting down the entire time.
Most jobs you can book a weeks leave of your choice and look forward to it as a holiday you’ve planned.
Its a different dynamic knowing you are required to take a holiday you don’t really want or can afford is three weeks away and it’s your” perk”.
It also not just yours but everyone’s work needs to be done at the end of each term.Most business carry on whilst people take a holiday. Teachers don’t just breeze back into class come September expecting it to all carry on where it left off,

fedup21 · 28/06/2019 19:34

Yes, lots of jobs are hard. No, teaching is definitely not the hardest.

People saying things like

The moaning teachers finished for the day not long after 15:30 didn't they?

are really insulting though.

People don't say that nurses/doctors/lawyers are work-shy, yet that is definitely the implication people make with teachers.

It is that reason that makes teachers defensive-pointing out that actually, teaching is just as hard as other jobs.

NotBeingRobbed · 28/06/2019 19:34

Ah yes, never dare to challenge a teacher. They will swear at you and call you stupid. Such reasoned arguments! Such astounding vocabulary. I am dazzled by your incredibly average intellects.

Yabbers · 28/06/2019 19:34

Perhaps they're knackered after looking after little shits all day, especially the ones whose parents moan all the time about teachers. I would be.

What about nursery workers or childminders. They are presumably tired too but work just as long, if not longer, for the whole year.

Lots of people have people who moan at them and about them, still work long hours and don’t get 13 weeks off a year.

It’s a difficult job for sure, but the end of term nonsense is laughable. I know a good many teachers who freely admit the holidays are great and a real perk to the job. They don’t pretend they deserve them more because of how difficult their job is.

Artykitty666 · 28/06/2019 19:35

I'm a teacher. I've spoken about how tired I am. I am not the most tired person ever. I mentioned I was hungry today. I was not the most starving person in the world today. I passed my driving test.i was not the only person to learn to drive ever. I broke my foot. I did not have the most painful foot ever. You're allowed to post or share memes lightheartedly that reflect your feelings without meaning you're the only one who has ever experienced it and its a million times worse for only you.

Kahlua4me · 28/06/2019 19:36

CandlesOnTheHearth . I came on to post that I agreed with your last post and then you posting your latest one, perfect 😀!

I can’t really believe that others can’t see how hard you all work and how soul destroying teaching must be these days. The teaching is probably the easiest part, it’s the politics, budget cuts and parents that would make the job so bloody hard.

I am not a teacher but am in awe of the work teachers have put in for my ds to enable him to flourish through school and sit his GCSEs with confidence after struggling so hard to find his way. Lessons and learning didn’t come easy to him but under guidance he has excelled all predictions and we are incredibly proud of him and indebted to the school for the effort they all put in to help.

Yabbers · 28/06/2019 19:37

Most jobs you can book a weeks leave of your choice and look forward to it as a holiday you’ve planned.

Yeah, that really doesn’t happen as often as you think. And unlike teachers, when I get back off by weeks “planned” holiday (the one I had to cancel three time because of workload) I spend my first couple of weeks back working unpaid overtime catching up. That’s not at all uncommon in the world of work.

Supergirlthesecond · 28/06/2019 19:39

@DuckWillow - thank you.

For those of you who aren't teachers, I 'll leave you with this gem: A parent, at parent's evening, told me I was being unfair because I was teaching Shakespeare (King Lear). Her daughter didn't like the great Bard's work, therefore, I should think of teaching something else. She had already advised her daughter to skip the Shakespeare question on the exam. (mandatory question/30% of paper)

mumsneedwine · 28/06/2019 19:39

BlueCornishPixie thank you for quoting me 😁. However you must have missed the part where I said other jobs were more stressful and involved peoples lives - my own DD is training to be a doctor and I am under no illusions that her eventual job with a whole load of poop. I have never said my job is the most stressful or compared it to other things that I have never done. I wouldn't presume to know what other jobs involve. But teaching seems to be something that people seem to know all about without ever having worked in a classroom. And I'm still tired, regardless of how tired other jobs make you. Not winging, just stating a fact. V sorry you also can't go to the toilet for 7.5 hours - it's a bit rubbish isn't it ? Thank god for Tena laday 😁

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