To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

@herculepoirot2 have you read all 772 comments then? I think not!

Ha! Why? I read quickly. It’s one of my many skills. But that’s not really the point. You haven’t, so you probably should.

I have. And I'm still waiting to hear about these credible experiences and qualifications...

Its you and others that start goady, fucked up threads like these and call teachers whiny when you get pulled up on your bullshit.
This so much.

They always seem to go like this:

GF OP: I'm going to have a whinge about something school related or teacher related. A teacher in real life said they're looking forward to their holidays or they're tired after parents' evening or they've got loads of marking to do, so I'm going to start a thread making stupid generalisations about a whole profession and how 'they' do blah blah blah. It doesn't matter if It's accurate or not because I'm going to hope some equally angry people (who also have no clue) will join in.

Teacher posters: Actually, you're wrong in these respects and being a bit of a goady fucker.
Other totally reasonable posters: why the teacher hate? Just chill out.
Cheerleaders: OMG! Yes! Teachers totally think their life is worse than anyone else's. I swear they always have threads on mumsnet saying they work 194 hours a day.

GF OP: (sits smug having started a bun fight where the poorly informed can spread misinformation and work their way through the teacher bingo list: holidays, hours, term time days off for holidays, job is easy, wouldn't manage in the real world, I've worked a 13 hour day and no teacher could manage, job for people who couldn't manage a real job, factually inaccurate comments about pay and contracts)

Teacher posters: spend time trying to explain why the GF are wrong

GF and Cheerleaders: See! SEE! Look at them pointing out how demanding their job is. That's all they ever do.

Teachers and reasonable posters: (backs away slowly from the thread because there is no sensible discussion to be had with people who are weirdly over-invested in starting an argument over person's job)

She’s a “former teacher” now, sooty, wonder why she left her imaginary career?

Good luck on having your kids educated by fully qualified teachers in the future, since you’re wishing so many of us, the good and experienced ones, away.

They'll be thought by people like me. Even less pay and qualifications. I'm particularly more grumpier too, and likely to be even more if I'll have to teach regularly rather than the impromptu sessions I do now (that shouldn't happen anyways).

@BoneyBackJefferson I actually loved teaching. I loved the kids, the school and everything that teaching brings with it. Yes there were challenges but so had every
Job. I was offered an opportunity to make more of a difference within education and I took it. I miss the shorter hours, the long holidays and the kids. Life is full of opportunities and no-one should feel trapped. There are a few people on here claiming to be teachers although given the comments I'm unsure. Shame as it gives the profession a bad name.

Life is full of opportunities and no-one should feel trapped. There are a few people on here claiming to be teachers although given the comments I'm unsure. Shame as it gives the profession a bad name.

Dude. Nobody is saying they feel trapped. They are saying that the conditions in the profession they want to work in aren’t acceptable. That’s not being “trapped”. Stop talking rubbish.

So your qualifications and experience in helping people to effect a career change out of teaching?

How do you "make a difference"?

How do you "make more of a difference"?

There are a few people on here claiming to be teachers

Well, quite.

@ilovesooty probably a lot easier than you are

No actual answer as to your experience and qualifications then.

@ilovesooty I work within strategy now. Interested to know how you're making a difference yourself. Infact no i think I've heard all I need to hear from angry you.

@cherriesandoranges
I was offered an opportunity to make more of a difference within education and I took it.

With all honesty and no sarcasm, well done.

I miss the shorter hours, the long holidays and the kids.

You have said that you don't work in England. The differences in other countries are endless and the situations don't all compare to those in England. (Its even different between England and Scotland). I can think of and name several countries where education and teachers have more respect, better hours, and even more extras. Not a moan just a fact.

Life is full of opportunities and no-one should feel trapped.

Has anyone said that they feel trapped, I love teaching,

There are a few people on here claiming to be teachers although given the comments I'm unsure. Shame as it gives the profession a bad name.

The first part of this is just goady and the second is projection. In England the profession has been devalued by countless politicians and the media, (again not moaning just a fact) Anything that teachers have said over the many years, all the things that have come to pass have been things that teachers have said would happen, yet we are just moaning and whinging.

Even down to threads like this where teachers haven't even said what they are being accused of, yet are accused of moaning for defending themselves.

Oh I see. You got away from actually dealing with people's needs on a personal level. I think you should quit the chirpy inspirational motivational careers talk then, since you seemingly have no qualifications in the area.

I work within strategy now.
So left the classroom in order to sit in an office and tell those still teaching what to do, but from a perspective of superiority.

That makes sense.

I know quite a few people who taken non teaching educational jobs. Some remain grounded in the reality of school life and others, shall we say, think that they know it all and like to nullify and dismiss experiences of people still teaching.

@BoneyBackJefferson there's s lot of moaning going on in your comments if you love your job and don't feel trapped.mmmmm reality?

Oh my goodness, this has actually made me laugh now.

If you were actually a “former teacher”, why didn’t you pull that line pages ago? Why did you refer to your experience of teaching as “friends and family”?

And, what, you were just pretending not to know how marking works, or meetings work, or even how school finishing times work?

I mean, fucking hell, at least the rest of us aren’t imaginary teachers.

Nothing worse than an ex teacher telling current ones what their job is/ should be like. It's like ex drinkers and ex smokers!

If it is me who you are referring to who said they work 7.45 til 4 , I wasn't actually moaning! No one in that post did I moan.

I think we should move away from the hours debate , though. That's not the only thing which makes teaching very very draining as people did point out earlier in the thread cherry so you may want to read back a bit. But you will know that having been a teacher. Interestingly, when I asked you where you had heard the moaning form teachers, you didn't say 'when I was a teacher myself'. Which would have been fair enough: teachers moan to fellow teachers all the time. As Belinda says everyone is entitled to a bloody good moan

@ilovesooty I think k you should quit. End of

Cherries thinks everyone should quit. 😂

cherriesandoranges
I love my job. I'm glad I career changed to teaching. It has it's positives and negatives and I'll talk about both. I have considered leaving the profession at some points but am glad I didn't. Will I still be teaching in 20 years? Who knows.

What I can't abide are GFs who goad and goad and goad and then when people challenge them go 'see you're always complaining and moaning... look at the teachers moaning... why don't you do something else blah blah blah'. It's unpleasant.

Oh really? Thank you for your input.
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By the way, I have actually tried to leave teaching. It really isn't that straightforward. Both of the jobs I applied for were full of ex teachers looking serene and unstressed. Unfortunately, I am institutionalised, and so fell at the interview stage. In many parts of the country , educational jobs which are not actually classroom based are rare. It isn't as simple as you sate to escape.

@cherriesandoranges you know you can love a job and still see and acknowledge the bad things about it and the fact that it's getting worse.

Most teachers love teaching and kids, it's the other bullshit like meetings,data,paperwork, irate parents , expectations of giving up full days,sometimes night or weekends for special events etc that they might have an issue with, and rightly so.