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WIBU to give my estranged sister a kidney?

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Shutupaboutthesun · 25/06/2019 08:09

My older sister became chronically ill many years ago and needed a kidney transplant from our mother. That kidney is now failing and she will shortly return to dialysis.

I'm asking if it would be unreasonable to give her my kidney, not whether it would be unreasonable NOT to, because of our particular circumstances.

We are low contact and only see each other at big family events. We don't otherwise talk. Her husband recently wrote to me, asking if I would consider donating. Our younger sister got an identical letter - she has already said no.

We (me and younger sis) do not get along with our older sister because she bullied us terribly throughout childhood, physically and psychologically. Both of us have ongoing anxiety and self-esteem issues due to the bullying, which was never stopped or curtailed by our mother (our father left when we were young). DM is still in complete denial about what went on, and characterises the situation as 'you two have always ganged up on her'.

DSis (younger) is in therapy and it was her therapist who advised her to write back immediately saying no to the kidney donation. She then got a horrible letter from older DSis (even though the original letter was from her husband), calling her a selfish person and implying she was a coward and a liar. She said she never wanted to see younger DSis again and would avoid any family gatherings from now on at which she would be present.

After younger DSis showed me that letter, I felt the familiar feeling of panic and helplessness from my childhood, of being trapped with older DSis, unable to get away from her fists and her taunts. I decided that I would say no too as I'll be damned if I'm going to be bullied by her in adulthood as well as childhood.

However, there was also something in the letter that made me pause. DSis has an 8yo daughter and she wrote of how awful it is to have to look at her every day and know that she won't see her grow up. She wrote, 'It is the worst feeling in the world'. This resonated with me as I am sole parent to my 3yo DD. I realised DSis is in an unspeakably awful situation, and the right thing might be to put aside my childhood issues and help her if I can.

Having said that, the fact that my DD doesn't have another parent (father's name not on the birth certificate) makes me hyper-aware of my responsibilities to her. I know the risks from donating a kidney are low, but the risk is still there, and I go back and forth between believing that I owe it to my sister to try to help, and believing that I owe it to my daughter not to take this risk for someone with whom I have a very poor relationship.

I've talked to a number of people about what I should do and they all, except for DM, said I shouldn't offer to donate. DM thinks I should because DSis is very ill, will probably die in the next five years without a new kidney, and there is 'no risk to the donor'. She keeps reassuring me that she has no health issues from donating her own kidney 16 years ago. Friends have said I shouldn't do it because my priority should be DD. GP said the same.

Even so, I keep thinking about it, and last week I almost told DM to tell DSis that I would be willing to get tested to see if I was a match.

I keep swinging back and forth between opposite emotions. Some days I feel guilty about what is happening to DSis, knowing that I could possibly stop it. The brutal fact is, if I don't donate, it means I am willing to sit back and watch my sister slowly die. DM is already full of grief about what is happening and her emotional state will only get worse as DSis deteriorates on dialysis.

Some days I think offering to donate my kidney would be some kind of 'big gesture' I could make to heal our whole family, whereas holding on to it just represents holding on to the bitterness of the past. Then other days I get angry and think, 'fuck it, no, why should I give that bitch my kidney, when she's had more negative effect on my life than any other person?'

I feel very clouded by conflicting emotions and it is hard to see clearly what is the right thing to do.

OP posts:
miagerbies · 26/06/2019 08:25

Tbh I would do it, solely because if I didn't and she passed away I would feel that guilt.

Also to the pp who said that by donating a kidney the op would shorten her life - that's bollocks, I only have one kidney and was advised that short of something happening to my remaining one I'm expected to have a normal lifespan. Know your facts before making a statement like that.

nrpmum · 26/06/2019 09:11

Not a snowballs hope in hell. Not because any possible future health risks, but because of your relationship. Your little one. The fact that every operation carries a risk.

I wouldn't even pay lip service to pretending you weren't a match. A simple no will suffice.

ElektraUnchained · 26/06/2019 09:21

An email/letter direct to her is best. Short, to the point and without focus on feelings. Good luck.

HoppingPavlova · 26/06/2019 09:50

Miagerbies and how guilty will the OP feel if she donates and then one of her kids needs one in the future (particularly if it’s a possible genetic issue). It also has implications for the OP in regards to expanding her family etc at a later date as some people are counselled against it in this situation.

Smelborp · 26/06/2019 09:52

I’m glad you’re planning to write that letter.

The response to your other sister showed such an entitlement - no recognition that what she’s asked for was an absolutely huge thing.

She would never be grateful and this wouldn't change your relationship or heal anything.

Imagine if as a result of the transplant you became ill or were suffering through the recovery. Would your older sister step up and help to look after your child when you couldn’t? Or would she go on with her life leaving you to suffer?

The risk to your DD is too great, she needs YOU.

honeygirlz · 26/06/2019 10:02

Hopping I don’t think @miagerbies thought that one through...

IdblowJonSnow · 26/06/2019 10:16

What a difficult situation. Haven't read full thread but it's a no from me. I would be tempted too op but put your dd first.
You sound lovely.
Your sister not so much. I have a mean sister too and a mum that denied it/didn't help. Wouldn't do it for her either but would probably feel terrible about it.

mbosnz · 26/06/2019 11:00

I only feel guilty for things I am responsible for. I'm not responsible for my estranged sister's health. Therefore I wouldn't feel guilt about her state of health.

I am responsible for my child's wellbeing. If I jeopardised that by jeopardising my health and wellbeing, I would feel very, very guilty indeed.

HorridHenrysNits · 26/06/2019 11:11

Agree with current plan of action and general tone of the thread. You cannot realistically or reasonably do this as a very sole parent of a young child. Your life circumstances simply don't allow it.

ShakespearesFister · 26/06/2019 15:49

I know this is a late response and it's been said before, but I just wanted to add my voice to all the others who are saying YWBVU.

This is a risk you really should not be taking as a parent of a young child. The process of donation alone carries risks which you should not take on in your situation. Plus there is the possibility that either you or your DC may develop renal problems in the future, and the absence of that kidney could have dire implications.

As for the donation changing the dynamic of your relationship with your DSis and DM - no, I don't think that would happen. Huge as the gift would be, they would not value it or acknowledge it; they would treat it as something that your DSis was utterly entitled to. It would take more than this (massive as it is!) to change your relationship with them; their attitudes are too entrenched. Plus they simply do not want to change the dynamic; they are quite comfortable with the dynamic as it is. You are the one who wants to change it, because you are the one suffering from it. You can't change their attitude towards you; you can only change your attitude towards them, and for this situation therapy does sound like a very good idea.

I am very sorry that you are in this situation and suffering from all this uncertainty and these unreasonable demands. You should not have been put in this position. Your DM and DSis are both culpable here, and have been for a long time.

LittleFairywren · 26/06/2019 15:52

You aren't a walking incubator for organs that your sister might need some day. Are you considering this because you're afraid of your sister and your mum's reactions? or afraid of the bad memories and emotions that their reaction will stir up in you?

ticking · 26/06/2019 16:12

Am I the only one that would go through the testing process, then, regardless of the result say it was a no match? That way then your sister doesn't get abusive with you?

ticking · 26/06/2019 16:13

(pressed send too soon!)

Your Dm isn't unhappy as you've (apparently) tried.
You are happy with your decision.

Loopytiles · 26/06/2019 16:15

YANBU not to donate. It’s a huge ask, and way too much to ask given that you’re low contact for good reasons.

SolsticeBabyMaybe · 26/06/2019 16:15

Is there a way to get tested without your sister knowing? It may be that the decision will be made for you anyway by not being compatible

Loopytiles · 26/06/2019 16:16

Your own and your DC’s interests should take priority here.

Aurea · 26/06/2019 17:29

I have a friend who has had a kidney transplant. The donated kidney generally has a limited life span. Also, the operation and recovery is very exhausting for the donor. I wouldn't in the circumstances....

LetsSplashMummy · 26/06/2019 17:45

I would say that you talked to your GP about it, as you have done (I'm assuming Dr type GP, not GP for grandparent) and that they said you shouldn't do it. All that is true, you can hint that it's a medical reason instead of an emotional one, but you can honestly say the Dr advised against it.

Then I would say that the GP recommended her DH sign up to a kidney donor pool, where he might match with recipient x and donor x might match with her.

You are being helpful, without giving in or taking risks.

katewhinesalot · 26/06/2019 17:46

Look on the bright side. You would feel even more guilty if it was a sister you loved and got on with. You'd still have to say no because of your dd, but you'd feel even worse than you do now. At least being NC and the spiteful letter showing she still hasn't changed, will make it a bit easier in the long run.

ClaryFray · 26/06/2019 17:58

I'd say no.

It won't help heal the rift. She is using emotional blackmail and I'd just ignore it completely,

Lex64 · 26/06/2019 17:58

Would she give you a kidney if the situation were reversed? Would she support your child if you were poorly? If the answer is "no" to both, which I suspect it is, then don't do it.

You may struggle with it, but it's more likely that you'll live with any guilt when you think back on the nature of your relationship with your sister. But if you don't think you can, then I think the idea of getting tested and letting the doctor's communicate with her to say it's not on, is the best option.

Best of luck Flowers

NorthbyNorthwest22 · 26/06/2019 18:10

The question you need to ask yourself is would she give you a kidney? I think you probably know the answer...

PumpkinPieAlibi · 26/06/2019 18:18

How has no one mentioned Lost? This is very close to what happened to a major character - John Locke. Basically, don't do it...it didn't end well for him.

AmberOpal · 26/06/2019 18:36

DON'T DO IT.

It's already been established that she's happy to emotionally blackmail you whilst simultaneously verbally attacking your sister when she said no!!

Perhaps you ARE being 'selfish' but SO WHAT? It's YOUR body, YOUR life and YOUR prerogative to decline to take that risk for someone who thinks it's okay to dish out emotional abuse as and when it suits them!

Do not let this woman intimidate you into signing yourself into the unknown. Have a quiet word with a nurse and they will bluff you out of it no problem. They take a pretty dim view of despicable measures like emotional blackmail and family pressure.

By the way, you're not being selfish at all - you're taking care of YOUR priorities first and foremost and if she'd bothered enough to look after you as a kid like a big sister should, instead of terrorising you, then the situation might be quite different now.

FoodologistGirl · 26/06/2019 18:41

As a single parent of a 3yo you would be mad to give her a kidney. If something happened to you who would your child go to? the mother that’s on you sisters side?. No way! Her husband can donate his kidney to a pool that will then allow her to receive a matched kidney in return. My friend did this and there was 4 of them in the pool that all shared the matched kidneys from their spouses. Tell them to ask their doctor about this. Don’t be guilted in to putting your child’s future in jeopardy. It looks like the older sister had already shown her true colours by the way she’s acted to your younger sister. She clearly hasn’t changed.

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