To report parents for not registering the birth of a child

[Anon6356237]

Should I stay out of it or report? I'm concerned the child could fly under the radar if there are any concerns if they are not 'in the system'. Who would I report to?

If this is in UK for example, how can you be sure they definitely want to be British?

Hmmm. You don't get to choose. You've got to have some connection with your nation state, either through your parents' nationality or place or birth.

Same with christening.... should be illegal

WTF?

I want to be Spanish but my bloody parents signed me off as British, not fair being made into property before you can even speak

Have you asked whether Spain wants a crazy person?

I can't decide whether you're insane or just very, very stupid.

A League of Morons

@jennymanara do you remember the name of that documentary?
@codemonkey Have you asked whether Spain wants a crazy person?

@jennymanara

"Attend" means to act as a medical professional would, e.g. examining the woman etc. It doesn't mean just being present or providing other support. I freebirthed (my ex was in the house at the time, but nobody else).

I did register my child's birth though.

@BasilFaulty no sorry i don't.

@rosiejaune freebirthing is very dangerous

@rosiejaune can I ask why you decided to freebirth? I'm planning on a home birth but would never not have a midwife there.

It's pretty dangerous to make blanket uninformed statements prompted by fear, but that hasn't stopped you.

@BasilFaulty

Partly because having a baby is not a medical condition, and for an informed woman in good health I see little need for such involvement.

Partly because I'm autistic, and would have hated having someone else there, even if they weren't in the same room. Which would have made it more risky for me, since mindset is very important when giving birth.

If someone doesn't want to freebirth then they shouldn't, since that would make them more anxious, which would be counterproductive.

But if they do want to, then their midwife falsely claiming that freebirth is illegal, and sending them to a consultant for further lying and bullying (including being referred to SS) is not going to address the reasons that are making them seek one in the first place. Which are sometimes a response to how they were already treated by medical professionals during previous pregnancies/births, so even more controlling by authorities is definitely not the answer!

Official midwifery advice is that freebirth is a valid informed choice, and not a safeguarding concern alone, but apparently few of them have read it.

Partly because having a baby is not a medical condition, and for an informed woman in good health I see little need for such involvement.

I think for a lot if people, like me, who fit the above criteria but whose babies needed assistance straight after birth. No warning, scans all fine etc it seems a huge risk. Happened with both my pregnancies, but the 2nd the hospital was prepared. Although my 2nd had different complication to the first, but I was classed as high care.

If it all went well and it was great. Then I can see why you would be happy with it. For those of us that may have lost our babies had their not been immediate medical assistance, it feels a huge risk. I am talking feelings though, not facts and figures.

I have aspergers and couldnt have stood to have rely on just exh.

@ProteinshakesandAntonsbum

Some birth issues in hospitals (or even at home with a midwife) are iatrogenic though. So you can't say with certainty in most cases "X happened and if I hadn't been in hospital my baby would have died".

Since some occurrences of X (and other issues) are caused by being in hospital in the first place, whether directly through poor care, or indirectly through not feeling relaxed enough to give birth easily when you might have been fine at home.

I didn't rely on my ex; I relied on myself. He was abusive and I didn't want him around; he was in the house but not in the same room.

rosiejaune
DS1 was an undiagnosed breach. Nobody caused it and it wasn’t iatrogenic. I was glad I was in hospital.

Neither of mine were iatrogenic. One had complications from the placenta breaking down in the last few days before he was born and having the cord wrapped multiple times round his neck.

Neither were caused by the medical care I received.

I am not saying you are wrong to free birth, though I wouldn't. What I am saying is that for those of who would have suffered devastation, if we had free birthed see it as a huge risk. It may not be logical and may not fit with the stats.

But everyone is more wary of things when they have experienced the negative sides of it.

My good friend had a very straightforward pregnancy but nearly died giving birth. If she had not been in a hospital at the time, both her and her baby would have died.

And freebirthing is dangerous. It worked out ok for you, but statistically it is riskier.

It's interesting that stats on free birthing are not currently collated.

I wonder why? Surely that would help people make an informed decision, either way.

www.msf.org.uk/issues/maternal-health

Does it not bother those posters who think the OP shouldn't have "interfered" that the child's parents have effectively interfered with their own child's right to a normal life? All very well for them to make their own choices as adults, but they've inflicted goodness knows what on their child for their own possibly ridiculous reasons.

Completely agree wowfudge. I’m glad the OP has reported to NSPCC, I would have done the same.

Saw this story, and thought of this thread

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-49017512

A Christian family who refused to pay income tax because it went "against God's will" have been ordered to pay more than A$2m (£1.1m $1.4m) to Australia's tax office.

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