To report parents for not registering the birth of a child

[Anon6356237]

Should I stay out of it or report? I'm concerned the child could fly under the radar if there are any concerns if they are not 'in the system'. Who would I report to?

MangoMummy
Ever heard of
Daniel Pelka? Peter Connelly? Dylan Seabridge?

Children like them are why it’s everyone’s business

MangoMummy19 What good reasons are there for patents not registering their child? As a foster carer for 30 years the non registering of a child has caused many problems for the child. There are no valid reasons for non registration.

Everyone needs a birth certificate at some point in their lives.

Not your circus, not your monkeys. I wouldn’t say anything.

Well done OP.

Given that registering your child doesn’t mean the government “own” them, they are either a bit wahoo and unhinged, or they have serious ulterior motives whereby they want their child to be non existent.

*Is is any of your business how somebody else raises their child??? No. Stop being a busy body Op and go and get a life

Not your circus, not your monkeys. I wouldn’t say anything.*

And this folks, is how tiny children, the most helpless, vulnerable and dependent people in society, are abused, neglected and murdered in plain sight.

Shame on you appalling people. You disgust me.

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” ― Edmund Burke

This applies here.
We don't know that there is anything going on that shouldn't be with the unregistered child, but by staying out of it, the risks to that child are increased - because who's to know?

If you're happy to be aware that something could be wrong but you're staying out of it because it's "not your business" then there's something wrong with your empathy. (Not the OP, she's reported this, I mean the posters who would "walk on by" and not do anything)

We know there are many people who do this. Social experiments have been set up to show it. It's called the Bystander Effect.

More people should help, not "not help".

Child need is paramount over parents Wishes in law. So if the child is at risk then report.
All this crap about it's a parents right. They don't take precedent.

If they are good parents, apart from the fact they made this poor decision. OP wont be telling them anything they dont know. They do know and dont care.

Then they're not good parents, because they know it will cause real issues in future.

Well done OP.

Not your circus, not your monkeys. I wouldn’t say anything

@Screamanger, have a read of this analysis of the Victoria Climbié case and tell us whether that's a remotely acceptable attitude.

Isatis there’s plenty of cases as bad as that where the child was registered and went to school.

Isatis there’s plenty of cases as bad as that where the child was registered and went to school.

So because some abused children have their birth registered and go to school we should ignore parents attempting to live under the radar? Really?

I’d say the majority of abused children are registered and go to school. Over 90%.

And your point is?

I’d say the majority of abused children are registered and go to school. Over 90%.

Can you back this up with research and statistics or is this based on the limitations of your own experiences?

I'm guessing Mabellavenders "point" is that since registration isn't 100% effective (and that's making the unfounded assumption that the reason there's a law for registering births is to prevent abuse) then the OP should have minded their own business, and it's totally fine for parents to break the law.

Of course I could be wrong. But that's the risk of posting ambiguous comments in contentious threads.

Although why it's contentious to suggest people obey the fucking law is a bit beyond me. I guess it's an age thing.

Ah well, children still get abused despite all the measures in place so we might as well not bother with any of them.

No birth certificates, no CRB or PVG checks, no police welfare checks. I mean kids still get abused despite them so what’s the point?...

I actually despair at some people. Although it does help give a better understanding as to why my parents got away with their abuse for so long.

I actually despair at some people.

Once you know the level of moronity that abounds in society, you can try and pilot a course that avoids the rocks. From that point of view threads like this are useful as they highlight how thick some people are who can still use a keyboard mouse and computer.

It's only a problem when you refuse to believe there can be people that stupid out there, and don't factor them into your life.

I'll review my opinion of humanity when deaths by selfie are zero for two years running ....

Side note

Serendipity - we saw Steve Backshall in Sydney a couple of years ago. He was talking about Deadly Aussie animals (of which there are a lot). One of the most staggering facts he handed us was that more people were killed by selfie than ALL of the deadly options in Australia in the previous year (snakes, spiders, sharks, jellyfish, crocs, the lot).

There is no limit to Stupid.

Like I said - lotta morons out there.

Bloody hell some of the responses on this thread

I’d say the majority of abused children are registered and go to school. Over 90%.

1. Well yeah, because we know about them and in (sadly) most cases people whose duty is to do so will report and investigate. Sadly because some kids still fall through the crack.

1. Pure numbers . Due to the fact that most kids are known about, they will make up the largest proportion of kids being abused. Unlike the ones that could be buried in the woods, trafficked,kidnapped,abused,neglected etc because no one even knows they exist.

1. If anything you make an even stronger argument for the need for registration. If kids in the system are still vulnerable and being abused and fall through the cracks, why would you ignore a child being in a much more vulnerable position because no one knows about them?

I’d say the majority of abused children are registered and go to school. Over 90%.

Sure, and since the majority of people are registered. Over 99.9% that still means the unregistered children are massively more like to be abused.

It's definitely something that should be reported, whether you suspect other kinds of abuse or not.

For the hard of thinking, I don't think the requirement to register a childs birth has anything to do with the dangers or otherwise of abuse ... it dates back to the 1500s and is much more concerned with ensuring inheritances went where they were meant to.

It was all codified in 1836, from memory. So by no means a recent or even modern requirement. In case anyone wondered ....

I know someone who discovered they were unregistered as an adult. Nothing to do with hippy type parents but part of a large family born in the early 1950s in Ireland and basically his parents forgot to register him. It didn't come to light until he was getting a mortgage in his early thirties

Not sure how he managed to work then without a national insurance number?