To report parents for not registering the birth of a child

[Anon6356237]

Should I stay out of it or report? I'm concerned the child could fly under the radar if there are any concerns if they are not 'in the system'. Who would I report to?

SparkyBlue I think you have been fed a line. He cant have actually a job. Maybe he was self employed. But never actually bothers registering with the tax office?

But he can never have worked in an employed role, or registered with the tax office. Or had a driving license or a passport. Unless he just happened to never want to drive, never travelled outside the country and always work cash in hand and evading tax. Its seems unlikely to not know until he is 30. And he certainly wouldn't have a got a mortgage for years, after sorting this out. If at all.

To the poster who says 90% of kids that are abused are registered. How do you know, by the fact that they are unregistered, you have no idea how many unregistered children are abused.

If you mea 90% of children that are saved from abuse are registered. That's pretty conclusive proof that a registered child, has a much better chance of the abuse being noticed and dealt with.

Those stats can only come from looking at the children we know are abused. It doesnt take in to account all the ones we dont know about.

Besides which, abuse, is the only reason a child should be registered.

I suspect the parents are recent converts to FOMTL and have had all the benefits of being brought up within society. But have chosen something different - illegally different, not just a lifestyle choice - for their DC.

Nothing to do with hippy type parents but part of a large family born in the early 1950s in Ireland and basically his parents forgot to register him.

It this is true, it just shows that life in the UK/Ireland(?) has changed a lot since the 1980s. It would come up much sooner than that now.

My mum was born in Ireland in the 50s.

I was born there in the 80s. All large families. Non were 'forgotten' to be registered. And mum has needed her birth certificate for loads of stuff.

Doing family history in UK, the late registered birth (like a year later) can be a newly legitimised child where a marriage has finally taken place!

Doing family history in UK, the late registered birth (like a year later) can be a newly legitimised child where a marriage has finally taken place!

I had one family who seemed odd - one baby registered in days, several who were months old, then two babies, born 11 months apart registered on the same day. Turned out the registrar only visited the island once a year!

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Glad to see you've reported them OP. There's no good reason not to register a child's birth.

I’d say the majority of abused children are registered and go to school. Over 90%.

As others have stated, I'd question your statistics. Unfortunately the very nature of abuse is such that, if a child doesn't go to school and the parents never take them to the doctor, it's hard to uncover, so those children just don't get into the stats.

Can you not to see that if a child is registered and goes to school, if they are abused there is a much greater chance of the abuse being picked up? People will notice if they don't turn up for routine checks and vaccinations, schools regularly notice and report on the children who are always turning up dirty, unkempt and hungry and/or with bruises. Yes, there are cases where they don't, but the reason they get a lot of publicity is precisely because the consequences are so awful.

Totally unreasonable. Unless you are concerned they are abusing their child leave well alone. When did people start feeling entitled to interfere in other peoples lives? Use the time you've saved to read the human rights act.

@Nigglenaggle read the thread and you will see why they absolutely should be reported.

You mention humans rights. It's the childs right to be registered as a citizen.

The parents do not have a human right to not register their child.

From what I've read upthread.... NOT registering the birth would end up with the child's human rights being breached.

@Anon6356237
I hope by now you've reported the parents.

When did people start feeling entitled to interfere in other peoples lives?

When you voted in governments that passed laws making it that way.

Next idiot please !

Really isn't that what "society" is ? A bunch of people (some less smart others, of course) all trying to live together by commonly agreed rules ? With an agreement that even if you don't like the rules you obey them, and expect that of other people in "society" ?

I wish I'd gone to school now, maybe I'd have learned better.

As others have stated, I'd question your statistics. Unfortunately the very nature of abuse is such that, if a child doesn't go to school and the parents never take them to the doctor, it's hard to uncover, so those children just don't get into the stats.
Can you not to see that if a child is registered and goes to school, if they are abused there is a much greater chance of the abuse being picked up? People will notice if they don't turn up for routine checks and vaccinations, schools regularly notice and report on the children who are always turning up dirty, unkempt and hungry and/or with bruises. Yes, there are cases where they don't, but the reason they get a lot of publicity is precisely because the consequences are so awful

I can't believe that needed to be spelt out!
99.9% of parents register the birth of the child, as required by UK law.

Once a child is registered they are on the radar. Why would someone not register their child?

Threads like these on MN have taught me to never ever trust anyone outside my own home. There is always someone out there willing to report you for anything and everything. Never let your guard down.

There is always someone out there willing to report you for anything and everything. Never let your guard down

If you are doing something that has negative far reaching consquences for your child and ignoring the childs rights you need reporting.

Do you fall into that category? If not, I wouldn't worry about it

Screamanger

Grow up. We are talking about reporting parents for failing to meet a legal obligation that will have negative consequences for their child in the future not because they gave him a fruit shoot and Greggs sausage roll.

Threads like these on MN have taught me to never ever trust anyone outside my own home. There is always someone out there willing to report you for anything and everything. Never let your guard down.

Considering children are most likely to come to harm from someone in their home or someone known to them through their parents that’s actually a silly trust to have.

Honestly, what justification can there be for not registering your child? There really is none whatsoever.

Use the time you've saved to read the human rights act.

This is the most ironic post ever. I suggest that you read it, taking into account that children are humans and not parental property. The UN Rights of a Child are also recommended reading.

How do people who don't legally exist access their rights?

There is always someone out there willing to report you for anything and everything. Never let your guard down

You must have missed the memo nothing to hide, nothing to fear that we were sold when all those invasive surveillance powers were bought in.

How do people who don't legally exist access their rights?

If they don't legally exist, they have no rights. After all, we already have a word for it: unperson . May as well get to use it properly. With Boris as PM, we might also get the Romans version Damnatio memoriae

You need proof of identity and a National Insurance number to do almost anything as an adult these days. If you don't have it, you can only work cash in hand, drive illegally and rent from a landlord who wants no proof of identity (which is likely to mean slum accommodation paying over the odds).

Jennymanara Yes of course! A child can only access education and health service if they are registered. Who would deny their child an education or access to health care? The mind boggles?

I know the reason tbh. I have fostered children who's births have not been registered. What horrific lives they have lead. No child should suffer at their parents hands... But these children suffered greatly and will never live a "normal" life, due to their early years experiences. Completely off the radar and only brought to the attention of children's services by a chance encounter. Much too little, too late. 😢

And the statistic that 90% of children abused are registered if true, horrifies me. Statistically very few children are unregistered. So this would mean that unregistered children are at a very high risk of abuse.