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Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

835 replies

Totur · 21/06/2019 19:55

Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

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Triglesoffy · 25/06/2019 22:32

The Titanic meme is hilarious! 😂😂😂😂😂

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2019 01:54

I just thought everyone rows.

Our house we have to shout if you are in another room so even if we are talking normally we are all shouting. I know we are noisy that is why we don’t live in a house with very close neighbours.

Tavannach · 26/06/2019 02:02

We shout too.

We don't smash crockery, send stuff crashing, bang so that the whole house reverberates or scream so loudly that it can be heard two storeys down outside in the street.
The neighbours were absolutely right to phone the police, a course of action about to be taken by adjoining neighbours when the police arrived.

Woody68 · 26/06/2019 02:45

If the neighbours were pure he wouldn't have gone to the press

VanillaSugarr · 26/06/2019 06:43

I once lived next door to a couple who were breaking up. One night there was an almighty shouting match and the police were called and carted the STBX husband away. But there was no smashing of crockery and no furniture being knocked over.

So the police have been called for less.

Alsohuman · 26/06/2019 08:27

Why shouldn’t they “go to the press”? People have a right to know what kind of man’s leading their country.

TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 10:15

I know we are noisy that is why we don’t live in a house with very close neighbours

I suspect you are more likely in a position where you can choose, not because you are a noisy family. The vast majority cannot choose to live far enough away from any neighbours so as not to be heard if they're a noisy family (even if tyere were enough houses to put all the overly noisy families in!).

Yes, this information should be in the public domain. The way a man treats his family (when hes likely to be making life and death sentences upon others) matters, a lot!

His beliefs, 'entitlements', prejudices, and behaviours are all important. Nothing demonstrates these better than intimate relationships, and his history seems poor on all fronts.

TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 10:17

I cant believe were in a situation of facing this possibility of him being in such a powerful position.

But then, didnt trump get in with only 33% of votes?

TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 10:31

This is funny, ironic, double-standards, fickle, make-it-up-as-you-go-along...

Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?
TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 10:33

Yes, big switcheroo Boris

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2019 10:36

I suspect you are more likely in a position where you can choose, not because you are a noisy family. The vast majority cannot choose to live far enough away from any neighbours so as not to be heard if they're a noisy family (even if tyere were enough houses to put all the overly noisy families in

Not really

It cost less than the houses on the new estate that were very very average and was the same price as the semis up the road.

It was a very badly designed and decorated house which is why it was probably was similar price or less than the nice houses

TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 10:47

Well, yes. You had considerable choice by the sounds of it. Thats good for you, but it doesnt reflect a large proportion of families.

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2019 11:34

Are you trying to say we have so much more choice than the multi millionaire BJ?

Or the ftbs buying the more expensive houses on the new estates somehow were prevented from viewing or putting an offer in on a cheaper property?

Everyone has choices. What you choose is up to you.

TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 13:18

No! Ha! Where did you get that interpretation from when i directly referenced a large portion of the population? Oh well.

I think it was easy to see what i was saying.

Its quite blinkered to think everyone has choices to the same degree. I think the homeless population could rightly disagree for example

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2019 15:38

I think the homeless population could rightly disagree for example

This is where I think you are wrong.

The homeless at one point had a roof over their heads.
At some point they made a choice or series of choices that brought them to where they are now, whether that was taking a drug or a drink that got them hooked, hanging around with people who weren’t good for them or having an affair that got them kicked out of the house, and not taking an opportunity when it is presented.

Opportunities don’t come with neon flashing lights saying Take Me or Else.

They are lifelines in the form of a job, a friend or a chance encounter with someone who gives you information about something that you remember and use later on.

Everyone has had choices at some point in their lives that brought them to where they are today.

I have come close to living on the streets, (in and out of care) Infact I know it would have been very easy to end up there if I had made certain choices.
These choices didn’t announce theirselves but it was a case on a lot of occasions of thinking where those sometimes innocuous choices could lead.

For example something simple like if I hated a job and made the choice to give it up my rent wouldn’t have been paid and I would be out on the street. Instead I took on a second job (for security) and then changed jobs

I don’t drink but if I made the choice to sit drinking till 3am then I am not going to be able to do my job so I will get the sack,

I know certain choices I have made in my life have been wrong and my life could have been very different but I can not dwell on the route untraveled.

I wonder if alcohol and drugs disappeared would there be that many long term homeless.

TruthOnTrial · 26/06/2019 18:03

But regardless, not all have the same level of choice, based on what youve said.

You cant help being made redundant or being diagnosed with cancer or having an accident, ad nauseum...shit really does happen and all ages end up on the street, many very young fleeing from abuse, and elderly also for many reasons.

Many end up on drugs because of childhood...anyway, no need to keep justifying this as i think whats wrong is to assume everyone has same choice.

They simply dont.

Oliversmumsarmy · 26/06/2019 21:34

I wasn’t saying everyone has the same choice. I was saying everyone has choices.

LJdorothy · 26/06/2019 22:35

But people's choices are limited to what they know/feel is available to them. Taking the oblivion route of drinking/drug taking may seem like the best option when reality is hideously grim. And not everyone has the insight/experience to realise where their bad choices might lead them. That lifeline isn't always there at the right moment and many people have no safety nets. Maybe BJ should read Poverty Safari by Darren McGarvey.

Smokeonthewater · 27/06/2019 08:46

I doubt Boris is genuinely interested in poverty at all. I don't think he really gives a damn about ordinary people or their problems - he's in it for himself .

Ladymargarethall · 27/06/2019 14:38

Smokeonthewater everything I have read about him suggests that you are right.

Butterymuffin · 27/06/2019 17:19

Very interesting take in this week's Popbitch on what hasn't been included in the Boris row reports. (Subscribe if you don't. No, I don't work for them.)

TruthOnTrial · 27/06/2019 18:35

Everyone has choices. What you choose is up to you.

Thats exactly what you actually said,following hit on the heels of your stating your rooms are so large you have to shout to be heard.

I think it is utterly blinkered of you to believe there are real choices for all. Do you think all the masses living in close proximity do so because that their preferred option.

There isnt enough land for everyone to have a good distance between homes.

You had the riot police turn up, and you take that so lightly and speak of it so flippantly! Any idea how much public resoirce you wasted, and clearly yhete isnt enough space between you and your neighbours if they still call the police and the police respond this way to the information given them.

What a shit carry-on. Your poor neighbours who moved to the country for peace and quiet i expect, not yobbish neighbours who think the police turning up with riot gear is something to be anything but ashamed about!

How awful for them,but you don't sound like you give two fucks.

Smokeonthewater · 28/06/2019 05:33

I thought it was Boris and his girlfriend who had gone into hiding? So all four of them are receiving hate threats and have moved out? What a ridiculous pile of nonsense.
The worst thing about all this is it will deter neighbours from calling the police in real situations of DV . Real victims will suffer.

TruthOnTrial · 28/06/2019 09:34

Carrie left her flat after death threats. The neighbours left after receiving death threats for recording the abuse by BJ.

Meanwhile, BJ is trying to be PM. What a mad world!

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