Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

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Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

So you would believe the Iranian ambassador? But not the court which said that Johnson's statements were proof of her guilt?

Confirmation bias.

*So you would believe the Iranian ambassador? But not the court which said that Johnson's statements were proof of her guilt?

Confirmation bias*

So you would believe the court which said that Johnson's statements were proof of her guilt? But not the Iranian ambassador?

Confirmation bias

I would believe the court that hauled her in for a trial a few days after the event, especially with the fact that it was in direct dispute for her alibi. Rather than someone being revisionist months later.

Oh and no, I wouldn't believe the Iranian Ambassador, you know what with him probably needing to be seen in a favourable light by the prospective future Prime Minister.

Of course his comments made a difference they gave legitimacy to an illegitimate situation. The Iranians could pretend their actions were justified because the bloody FS had backed up their bullshit because he didn’t care enough to read his brief

A regime which deems it justifiable to imprison people merely for training journalists is motivated by such fundamentally unpleasant and venal considerations that their treatment of Zaghari-Ratcliffe would always transcend whatever gaffes Boris made.

The courts spoke first and passed the sentence. Their ruling was broadcast to the Iranian people. The Iranian ambassador probably just wants Bojo to be PM so we become more of an international laughing stock.

I have to say, this whole Boris affair shows up Tories for what they really are.

Let’s not give a fuck about calling the police on a domestic argument when someone could be in danger - because it might harm a politician’s chances of getting into power.

That’s what Tories care about, first and foremost. Political power at all costs.

It’s disgusting.

But at least, it’s a reminder as to why I’d never vote Tory.

I can guarantee you that if it were Jeremy Corbyn, the same people on this thread would not be jumping to his defence and a right to a private life 😂

I did like the, very clearly, staged photos with Boris and his partner in the mail today. “Oh look they’re in love really”.

I’m not even convinced that’s actually Boris 😂

Oh and no, I wouldn't believe the Iranian Ambassador, you know what with him probably needing to be seen in a favourable light by the prospective future Prime Minister

Yes, I'm sure the Iranian Ambassador to the US speaks in glowing terms about Trump, i.e. the most powerful man in the entire world.

The Iranians have little inclination to butter up Boris. Much better to let him enter office still thoroughly tainted by the whole controversy.

"Yes, I'm sure the Iranian Ambassador to the US speaks in glowing terms about Trump, i.e. the most powerful man in the entire world. "

Different scenario.

"Much better to let him enter office still thoroughly tainted by the whole controversy."

Well that would be suited by the Ambassador saying he had nothing to do with it as well.

A journalist former colleague of Johnson was interviewed on BBC on the weekend. She shared an office with him - they were a staff of two. She stated he has a terrible temper that escapes very quickly and which she found very frightening and had no wish to witness again.
We need a PM of whatever persuasion who can keep a cool head in times of crises, let alone when there is a disagreement or he cannot get his own way.
Very telling that his GF allegedly accused him of being rich and spoilt

Hes not that rich. He's homeless, that's why he's cocklodging.

The Telegraph pays him £250k a year for his pointless column on top of his MP’s salary and I bet he’s got other income streams too. Of course he has got all those children to support ...

Some of his children are grown up, so he won't need to support them.
You can't tell me that on an income of at least £328K with his MPs salary and Telegraph payments that he can't afford a small pied a terre at least. Even with London prices.

viciousrooster Describing what he said as Home Secretary as a gaffe is major minimising.

Johnson will be our PM. I fully expect him to annoy and anger various diplomats and PMs during his tenure and for the work and decisions to actually be made by someone totally unelected.

£250k a year from one job a year, and he’s not that rich he’s also an MP so that’s another salary plus speeches etc

Not to mention his family fortune.

Honestly.

Maybe we should have a whip round for poor "homeless" Boris?

My husband has a very loud voice and we have argued and I pretty sure neighbours heard. Not often. But we've never thrown anything. I think that probably what drove neighbours to record it. If you start hearing crashing sounds and someone shouting get out of me. It sounds like violence even if nobody was hurt. But everyone know they guy is unfit. I really struggle to understand his rise to become PM. What has he ever done to deserve this job? I'd love someone to come up with a CV describing what on his record justify him being chosen to be the Prime Minister.

My italian friend, shouts, throws things, she says it is because she is so passionate about things, her OH just ducks. I would wonder if her neighbours taped her what they would think. Thank goodness she is in a detached home.

That’s what Tories care about, first and foremost. Political power at all costs

While I agree, I'm not sure that makes them any different from all the other wretches we've got at the moment. Ideas, principles - even personal integrity - all seem to be thrown overboard; all that matters is the next headline, in pursuit of a go at the big boys' table and a chance to get their noses in the trough

As someone once said, a politician thinks of the next election, a statesman of the next generation ... and we just don't seem to have any statesmen (or women) around at the moment

So they had a flaming row, so what. What is interesting is that the neighbours not only recorded it but sent the recording to the papers. Also, these same neighbours, some time previously, when greeted in a freindly way by BJ on the doorstep, gave him two fingers. The recording, police call and general hoo-haa were a set-up by their leftie, Boris -hating neighbours.

The row is, in itself, a non - event.

However, though I would never want Boris for PM it does emphasise his poor judgement in ditching his stable home and wife for a woman whose previous relationships have reportedly been very tempestuous , and who has (again reportedly) prodigious ambitions of her own in the political sphere.

I also condemn Jeremy Hunt for making political capital from this row - he has gone down in my estimation.

The Tory party has chosen the wrong two candidates, imo.

"The recording, police call and general hoo-haa were a set-up by their leftie, Boris -hating neighbours."

Funny that other neighbours considered calling the police too then.

Any other politician would have had this reported and political capital has been made out of far lesser things, it goes with the territory, he knows it and so does she.

The row wasn’t set up by the neighbours.

I've never had to shout at anyone to get off me - to my mind the reporting to the police and the recording even were absolutely legitimate. If the people who reported it didn't like Boris Johnson to start with, so what and well, it does sort of vindicate their position doesn't it! It's arse backwards to say they didn't like him so they did something mean to him - he did something mean and there's another reason why they don't like him! Those PR pictures of the pair of them are nauseating and pointless because he's teflon so he'll sail through regardless - he's woefully inadequate for the job in hand and will muff it up and then in a couple of disastrous years swan off a la Cameron.

Ironically, if the current situation of activists camped outside this Camberwell flat and the couple having to move to another location is true, then Boris and Symons will become the 'victims' of the piece, hounded by disproportionate violent reaction. Neat eh?

I'm slightly sceptical of that 'new' picture of them both in a garden holding hands. Does Carrie Symons only have one dress? (Or maybe the rest of her wardrobe is covered in red wine!)

Churchill has been mentioned but David Lloyd George was much worse. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-38236344. Ffion Hague wrote a good book about him. "The Pain and The Privilege." He had his mistress installed downstairs at No. 10 and his family upstairs. Obviously, his spin team did a better job than Boris' minders.

I also condemn Jeremy Hunt for making political capital from this row - he has gone down in my estimation

Yes, was thinking just that this morning. He needs to tread carefully, there is a fine line which he could cross if he is not careful which will backfire on him.