Is a women not making an effort if she is not wearing makeup

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Do you think that a women is not making an effort if they attend something like a Christmas dinner, birthday meal or wedding and she was not wearing makeup? Assume they are clean and wearing tidy formal clothes to fit the occasion. Also if you thought she wasn't making an effort because she wasn't wearing makeup would you keep it to yourself or say something?

According to my Mil this is the case and I should wear makeup. All the time according to her but especially Christmas day and meals out.

Your MIL is a sexist dick

What bollocks

Can you turn up made up like Dolly Parton next time you see her, and tell her you've taken her advice?

I never wear make up I wouldn't notice if people were or weren't unless it's really obvious. But I'm forever being told by DM I'm lazy and should make an effort!

Utter shite!

I never wear makeup, I didn't even wear a single scrap of makeup to my own wedding. So if I can get married without it I can do anything without it

I never wear make up. I have frequently been told to make more effort etc. By odd entitled sorts mostly. Honestly the ridiculous notion that my face has to be made up for others entertainment is actually disturbing. I am also NT, another thing I am assumed to not be because of my "quirky" make up free stance .

It would depend on what the woman usually does for the same events. If she is normally wearing make up but isn’t recently if probably notice but wouldn’t say anything. If it was a close friend or relative I’d ask how she was doing because maybe she isn’t feeling the best.

Sexist bollocks! I like a bit of eyeliner. I couldn’t give a hoot if everyone else is bare faced or masked in slap.

Make an effort to do what? Impress other people?
The older I get the less effort I make.
Wear make up maybe a couple of times a year. I'd certainly not wear it for Christmas day as I hate the feel of it and if I've worn it for an evening the first thing I do when I walk in the house is wash it off.

I wouldn't say anything negative about anyone's appearance (though I might to myself if they had thick make up on).

My mil would not dream of making a remark about whether or not I was wearing makeup or indeed any aspect of my personal appearance.
Well, she may well dream about it but she's too canny to make it a reality.

Definitely turn up in the most garish makeup you can find next time and if anyone comments tell them that MIL pressured you into wearing this. If you can push out a few fake tears for the audience all the better.

Seriously though, wear what you want.

Sadly some people do think this

It’s an insane and sexist attitude

I’d tell her to stuff her opinion!

I hardly ever wear makeup. I'd rather look like me than a pretend version of me. Also, I just don't have time. No problems with other women wearing it but I can't be bothered.

I didn't get the memo about dressing up for Christmas Dinner until a couple of years ago (I'm in my 40s). Still baffled!
In answer to your mother in law; don't be rediculous, women should be able to choose not to ware make up without judgement.

I think next time you see her, you should do that contouring business favoured by 17 year olds on Instagram. Just really dark stripes of make up everywhere. And glitter for good measure.

I don’t wear make up because I am quite accepting of my face without it (and can only apply it in the drag style). Your MIL sounds like a real peach.

I’d think if someone always usually wore make up for these kind of events if she just didn’t feel like it any more or wasn’t well. Much like if a man who’d usually wear an ironed clean shirt and polished shoes turned up in a tracksuit.

But it’s about what’s usual for the invidiual.

Nope. I'd notice messy, untidy hair more

I make an effort I get my eyebrows shaped and my toe nails painted. I cleanse, tone and moisturise twice daily and look after my skin.i exfoliate and moisturise, shower and change my clothes daily, do yoga every morning for an hour and go for regular massages and try to eat well and drink lots of water. I don't wear makeup though, don't see why I should or how it signifies me making an effort. If you can't handle looking at my face that's your problem.

I very rarely wear any but that's because I don't feel good in it.

It's not connected with a 'lack of effort' in my opinion.

I also think it's how good your skin is too tbh. My best mate has amazing skin so looks great without. I have acne scars and breakouts so if I dont wear cc cream or something people ask me if I'm feeling ok

I have no issue with women wearing makeup or not. I do hate the sexist additude that people like my Mil have thinking women have to wear it. Attitudes like that make me feel a bit self conscious sometimes because I don't wear it. I hate the way make up feels when it's on, it makes my exzema worse, I don't feel like me in it and I look like a clown in it.

Does she tell her son off for not making an effort? I've no objection to makeup, just expectations that women "should" in order to look smart/ professional etc, or about dressing in ways that put style above practicality (e.g. high heeled shoes for standing/ walking around)

I wear makeup a few times a year for special occasions/ nights out when I want to feel a bit more polished than usual. Eating out with family, no.

What sort of effort? I rarely wear make up because

1. I'm not good at applying it despite looking like coco the clown for much of the 1980s and
2. I'd rather spend the time it takes to apply make up doing other things
3. If people don't like my face how it is, tough.

I don't wear makeup because I have ridiculously sensitive skin that has a hissy fit if I put anything other than mild soap and warm water on it.

Am I fuck painting my face in sludge that will make it sore and red for days for anyone.

That is my reason 'I don't want to' is just as valid.

Your mil is talking utter bollocks op