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AIBU to expect school to be sensitive to my child who has just lost her father

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itsallabouttheponies · 15/06/2019 07:44

I am fuming, my beautiful sweet 8 year old lost her dad last week to suicide which has left the whole fallibly devastated. She has been back at school since Monday and is being so brave about it, yesterday she came out and told me they had made fathers days cards in class. Her teacher told her to choose somebody else to write the card to while all of the other children wrote to their dads. AIBU is suggesting the teacher was fucking insensitive to my daughters lose and it should of been discussed with me, I could have picked her up from school or even taken her to read a book but at barely a week after losing her dad who in their right mind would do this???

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BlueberriesAndCream · 15/06/2019 19:54

It is unbelievable that a teacher could be that insensitive to a child who's been through a trauma so recently

NearlySchoolTimeAgain · 15/06/2019 20:05

As a secondary school teacher I teach far more DC than a primary school teacher. If a parent is listed on our system as having died I note the reason and make adjustments to my teaching (Science) if required - often cancer or heart disease topics. Your poor DD. I would definitely be complaining.

floraloctopus · 15/06/2019 20:42

Those saying "but it would have been planned" and "what if the teacher didn't have time to plan anything else?"

I haven't RTFT but any teacher worth their salt can plan something else quickly if need be. There are many art activities that take minimal setting up - you can choose a painting online linked to your current school topic within minutes and have the children painting/drawing/doing pastels in that style and learning a new art skill very quickly. Ditto doing art work in a particular book illustrator's style.

makingmammaries · 15/06/2019 21:14

Your poor DD. I lost my mother when I was almost 7, and the annual school Mother’s Day performance was such an ordeal that I used to lie awake thinking about it months in advance. I would have expected things to move on since I was a child - seems not.

Unusualusernames · 15/06/2019 21:23

Bloody hell! That's actually awful! No you are not being unreasonable. Your poor little girl. I lost my dad just before my eighth birthday. This was the 80s when you might expect insensitive crap like this. This has actually made me really cross for your little girl. Sorry but I really don't see why they couldn't have not done that activity given what she's going through. I'm certain the other parents would have understood. I just don't know why some people go in to teaching if they're that bloody insensitive.

My thoughts are with your little girl. There's a charity called grief encounter that it might help to get in touch with, not about this issue but generally to help you to support your daughter.

gingerbiscuits · 15/06/2019 21:38

Wow. I'm a Primary School TA & that's beyond insensitive & could so easily have been avoided. Complain to the Head.

LJdorothy · 15/06/2019 21:45

I don''t do father's day at school and only do mother's day when I know that all the kids have mums at home. My kids lost their dad when they were at primary and were never told to make a card by a teacher. I'd have been so upset if that had happened. Going to the shops in the days before father's day was hard enough, steering them past all those cards, and balloons and tops with 'I love my daddy'. The teacher was terribly insensitive, and you need to have a word with the HT, so she never does that again.

MissEliza · 15/06/2019 22:37

Read them the riot act Op.

Cordyline1 · 15/06/2019 23:02

makingmammaries That's so sad. Flowers

easterholidays · 16/06/2019 00:53

Those saying "but it would have been planned" and "what if the teacher didn't have time to plan anything else?" It literally matters not one jot in the context of what this child is going through. It would have been better for the whole class to spend a couple of hours watching a vaguely educational film if it meant that this little girl didn't have to be put in such an uncomfortable situation just days after the loss of her Father. They don't exactly need card making skills to get them through life, do they?

Just awful. Complain to the Head OP...and I never say that.

Exactly this!

And @makingmammaries, I'm so sorry that happened to you, it's made me cry. Sad

MarieVanGoethem · 16/06/2019 01:49

I’m so sorry for your loss @itsallabouttheponies; & so sorry your DD found herself in this situation in what’s meant to be a safe space to help provide her with some security & stability while the two of you are working on turning your world the right way up again.

I was a contributor to the Mother’s Day thread PPs have mentioned - one of the posters who experienced being forced into activities after the [in my case very sudden & lasting-trauma-causing] death of their mother. Please complain if you’re able to do so - for your DD, to ensure it doesn’t happen again next year; & to try to get the school to reconsider full stop. So many children are unnecessarily distressed by Mother’s/Father’s Day stuff being pushed on them. A PP mentioned it being everywhere in the real world (I paraphrase) - & yes, it is, but that’s MORE reason to avoid ramming it down children’s throats. It doesn’t somehow inoculate them against the consumerist onslaught (which with some planning you can avoid the worst of), it simply deepens the wound. There will be some bereaved children who genuinely don’t mind making cards for someone else - but the anecdata from this thread & the previous one suggests they are very much in the minority.

I run a Brownie Unit & have never done anything for either parent-celebrating-day. I hope that even if I didn’t have the personal experiences I do, I’d have thought that the simple fact of families being complex might mean it’s not a genius idea. It genuinely surprises me how many Scouting & Guiding groups still do things, though to be fair maybe the ones that are have only young members with traditional nuclear families &/or plan with parents & young members in advance. This year actually went so far as to send a message to my Brownies whose mother died 2 years ago (in form of text to their father) to reassure them we’d not be doing anything even vaguely linked to Mother’s Day at Brownies at our meeting closest to it. Little one was a little “of course we’re not, I know that” but the older one had a more complicated reaction of feeling relieved having not realised she’d been worried - because she knew she didn’t need to worry, because I’d never EVER do that. But that’s how big an impact Mother’s Day stuff all over the place can have. In the past I’ve had parents specially check if they should keep their daughter off around Father’s Day because if we were doing related activities they’d rather miss the meeting. Poor wee dotes.

Sorry, am rambling rather. Am just trying to highlight how big a thing it is & how much it matters. You’re not expecting too much of the school & I hope your DD is as ok as possible today (& indeed that you are too). If it helps at all, at least she’s getting this nasty “first...” out of the way while still in the first stages of grieving rather than having it jump up to bite her as you were starting to feel a wee bit more “normal”. (I know that’s quite desperately Pollyanna-ish, but I hope you’ll understand what & how it’s meant.) Hopefully you’ve been put in touch with people already, but if not, Winston’s Wish (as mentioned by a PP) is an invaluable source of support for children who’ve been bereaved; & please consider contacting Cruse for some support for yourself.

Flowers for you ponies; & also a wee pile of hugs should you be ok with virtual hugs from a random person who’s happened across you on the internet. Please be gentle with yourself: I know you’ll have lots to do & will be focused on your DD (DC?) but it’s really important you look after yourself as well as possible. Make sure you eat & sleep & accept offers of help (that will actually be useful, it’s important to say no v firmly to those that won’t) & absolutely ask people for help when you need it. I know you weren’t posting about how to cope & I hope it doesn’t sound patronising - is just meant as a reminder as it can be easy to forget when crowded in by grief & trying to support others as they grieve. (And more so, sometimes, when bereavement is due to suicide as that so often has complex & challenging [emotional] responses & issues to navigate particular to that type of death.)

AlbertWinestein · 16/06/2019 02:19

This has oddly really upset me. As someone who lost a best friend to suicide, I know how particularly unique and tough that grief is. So can you also give your DD another totally not weird hug from this random mum on the internet who just feels really bad for her?

Nope. Not weird at all! Grin

Bedforaweek · 16/06/2019 02:54

This hAs made me so sad
What an incredibly thoughtless thing to do.
And your poor gorgeous girl writing to her cousins about how sad they must be for losing their uncle- that is so striking. What empathy she has. But she should not be having to see it from anyone else’s point of view right now
I honestly can’t believe a teacher expected her to have worked out with her father having just died which other male in her life would be fitting of addressing the card too.

Isithometimeyet0987 · 16/06/2019 03:00

Some thing similar happened to a boy in my class when I was in high school 1st or 2nd year. We were meant to be writing Mother’s Day poems in English class, it wasn’t long after his mum had died, difference is when he was told to choose someone else to write a poem about he went mad shouting at the teacher. The teacher seriously didn’t seem to understand why he was so upset and cross. I would have found some reason she needed to do something in another class if it was only decided that day to make them or have spoken to you about it before so you could make arrangements.

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