To think Jo Brand should be allowed to joke about anything and everything?

[noleftturn]

I don't want to live in a world where we are all censored

Anything and everything. People of course have a right to react to it.

Compare to comments on the nearby "DH wearing socks with flipflops" which leap to the comedy "kill him" almost immediately.

Saying that the hierarchy is due to competence is exactly saying that mem are superior, it infers that the reason there are fewer women in top roles is because men are more competent, thus superior.

The president of the United States is a fine example of why Peterson's heirachies theory is nonsense.

I've explained the point about sides, a number of times. You just keep saying "I want to know what side I'm on" when onviously the "your side" point wasnt specifically you

So who was it specifically to then?
Because you specifically called people hypocrites, so you clearly assigned sides to people. Who’s on what side, and how can you tell? If you can’t tell, who are you calling hypocrites, and why?

Just because she’s a comedian doesn’t mean it was a joke. If someone came up to you and said someone should throw acid over you, are you meant to laugh because ‘they’re a funny guy’ or take it as a threat? Throwing acid over someone is the most calculated way to destroy a life and cause pain and shouldn’t be seen EVER as a funny thing to do. She apologised because maybe she could see how guilty she would feel if someone actually did what she suggested. I can’t stand farage, Johnson, Corbyn and pretty much any politician at the moment but politics is a game of words and if you fall backwards into violence then your own position is weakened.
I think a lot less of jo brand because of her words but at least she has the balls to stand up and retract them.

Its a valid point, when right wing individuals comitt atrocities havibg been influenced by the right wing media/alt right no one makes remarks about the right wing being the problem, as Boris Johnson and others do about Islam. Even the langauge used to describe them is different
It might well be a valid point, but it wasn’t the one you were making. You only mentioned that after a poster pulled you up on your ‘Brexit killed Jo Cox’ sentiment, by asking if you thought Islam was killing people.

You’re now retrospectively applying the above to you’re argument as though it were the basis.
It wasn’t, the basis of your argument was Brexit killed Jo Cox.

I think a lot less of jo brand because of her words but at least she has the balls to stand up and retract them
I don’t think she did retract them, because there’s people upthread saying they think more of her for ‘not’ apologising.
I think it was an ‘I’m sorry you’re offended’, rather than ‘I’m sorry for what I said’ type apology

I said people were hypocritical, because they are happy to blame Islamic culture ( as Boris has) when there are terror attacks but when far right attacks happen its "personal responsibility" not the culture or environment which has led to it.

The nationalistic rhetoric of the leave campaign led to the murder of Jo Cox, in exactly the same way that extremist Islam leads to terrorism (extremist anything really). However the difference is that extremist Islam is not mainstream, the leave campaign was. It wasn't leave campaigning politicians that got death threats during the campaign either.

If "you" (general.not specific) are going to only hold the individuals responsible when a certain type of person commits an attack and not others then it is hypicrtical.

"ykur argument was that brexit killed Jo Cox: .

Which is still valid, without the brexit campaign and its use of language, it wouldn't have happened

Which is still valid, without the brexit campaign and its use of language, it wouldn't have happened

You don’t know that. Stop saying it as a statement of fact. It’s your opinion, nothing more.

It wasn't leave campaigning politicians that got death threats during the campaign either.

Stupid death threats were sent across the board.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/18/tory-mp-reveals-brexit-death-threats-including-isil-image-of-his/

Stop playing team sport politics.

You stated Brexit killed Jo Cox.
You called people wilfully disingenuous if they thought ‘brexit’ DIDN’T kill her. People corrected you, saying a man killed her, and asked YOU if YOU thought that Islam was blamed for murders, as that is the applying YOUR logic.
But you then started talking about how people are described, which WASN’T what was being discussed.

I said people were hypocritical, because they are happy to blame Islamic culture

Again, no one blamed islamic culture, they asked YOU if YOU did, in the SAME way YOU blamed Brexit.

So, come on, Who was happy to blame Islamic culture on here? Because there must be someone you can pinpoint! (As YOU called people on this thread hypocrites)
Show me the post they said that.
Boris isn’t here, you seem to be assigning Boris’ view onto people here, and making it their ‘side’.

Except you are again on the semantics, because it didn't exactly say that it doesn't mean it isn't inferred, which it most certainly is.

White men dominate the top tiers of hierarchical society, if this is down to com petance this must mean that white men are naturally more competant no?

No wonder you dont think privilege exists.

YABU the fact that anyone can use acid attacks and joke in the same sentence sickens me.

Blimey, this thread’s become bizarre. I learnt not to try to debate with Zipee a while ago, you end up banging your head on the table. Then he/she insults you.

Oh fuck me "who blamed Islamic culture on here " no one, but when terrorist attacks happen people, the media and politicians lile Boris do. Which was the point. People do talk about Muslims taking responsibility for their own communities too!

Saying "a man killed jo cox" but not looking at the wider picture is hypocritical!

Oh fuck me "who blamed Islamic culture on here " no one, but when terrorist attacks happen people, the media and politicians lile Boris do. Which was the point

So who on here were YOU calling a hypocrite? And WHY?

Nuance and langauge obviously mean nothing to you. Actually understanding what things mean rather than having yo have them specifically and literally spelled out for you.

I think it was a disgusting joke. To joke about someone having acid thrown in them isn’t on no matter who you are, if a politician had of said it they would have lost there job but because she’s a comedian she gets away with it? No she shouldn’t in my opinion.

Saying "a man killed jo cox" but not looking at the wider picture is hypocritical!

You’re very fond of calling individual people hypocrites, aren’t you? But when you’re asked why, you switch to general arguments.

If you’re calling someone a hypocrite, you should be able to tell them why THEY are one, not why someone else is one, or because a politician said something.

Actually understanding what things mean rather than having yo have them specifically and literally spelled out for you.

Ah, you mean you rely on your psychic abilities!

I’d love to have things specifically specifically and literally spelled out to me, you called people on this thread hypocrites.
Why are the people on this thread hypocrites?

I understand what you mean when you call me a hypocrite @Zippee. You haven’t spelled it out specifically and literally for me, but I infer from your posts that you’re a misogynist and a racist . You haven’t outright said it, but I know you are one from the discussion we’ve had.

See how this works?

It really wasn't funny so not worth saying really. The fuss about it is silly though.