To think Jo Brand should be allowed to joke about anything and everything?

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I don't want to live in a world where we are all censored

Hahah you've attacked the source without even looking at it.

Strawman on the made him do it, thats nkt what Im saying at all, it created the conditions for it to happen.

Ive said repeatedly the campaign, which used the langauge of oppression and conquest, and painted leave as a vote for freedom, and also used langauge of treachery towards the remain campaign, caused the environment in which something like this occurred.

Criticise the Guardian all you like, where did you get your information about free speech being oppressed.

these myths about no platforming

What happened to Jordan B. Peterson at Cambridge? Looks suspiciously like no-platforming to me!

Ive said repeatedly the campaign, which used the langauge of oppression and conquest, and painted leave as a vote for freedom, and also used langauge of treachery towards the remain campaign, caused the environment in which something like this occurred

You won’t answer my questions because you can’t. Apparently the murderer was just a slave to his environment. The language was just irresistible. It’s not his fault.

Re the no platforming, so the guardian are saying it doesn’t happen. Why am I not surprised. It’s the same bullshit:
It didn’t happen.
And if it did happen, it doesn’t matter, because they probably did it to themselves to play the victim.
And if they didn’t do it to themselves, then it doesn’t matter, because they probably deserved it 🙄

The Guardian hates women, Zipee.

The online magazine spiked has a wealth of information about deplatforming and other anti-free speech acts. I suggest you start there.

Hahah you've attacked the source without even looking at it

When you’ve seen no platforming happen, you don’t need to look at something that says it’s not happening, because you know it is.
It’s not a difficult concept to grasp.

“The langauge you use about being silenced is interesting, who silences you? “

Currently, TRAs.

As for the “myth” of No Platforming a member of my family has been ‘No Platformed’. Lost a significant fee and a 3 month long associated contract.

What happened to Jordan B. Peterson at Cambridge? Looks suspiciously like no-platforming to me!

Oh I’m sure the Guardian and zipee would be perfectly fine with that, what with evil Jordan Peterson and his 2-hour biblical lectures being a white supremacist and a nazi and all.

" When youve seen something happen" I saw the leave campaign whip up the nationalist fever for brexit and thr language that created the conditions in which the Jo Cox murder happened. Other remain MPs received death threats too.

Jordan Peterson wasn't no platformed, he just wasn't offered a job, because he would refuse to follow a code of conduct. He's also wrong about PC and many other things.

Oh and I've answered your questions, And you keep creating this strawman that Im not critical of the murderer.

Jordan Peterson and his 2-hour biblical lectures being a white supremacist and a nazi and all.

What was that he said to a protester? He doesn’t like Nazis? Well let’s ignore that - we don’t like him, so we’ll call him a Nazi anyway!

he right can say what they like, but get outraged about stuff like the Jo Brand comment.

I really don't see anyone on the right getting outraged about Jo Brand's comment in and of itself, unless I've missed something (I'm sure Zipee can correct me!). The reaction has been far more about different ends of the spectrum being held to different standards of conduct.

Farage himself is upset about it, which I think has reflected poorly upon him, but then again maybe he feels it was legitimately an incitement to violence. I can't really imagine how I'd feel in his shoes because I'm not a public figure.

Oh and I've answered your questions, And you keep creating this strawman that Im not critical of the murderer.

Didn’t you just complain about people calling him a murderer, and not a terrorist?

Just say what you want to say, OP - What offensive subjects do you think are cool then? You've put up this post yet you're talking around the houses and not getting to the point.

Certain people churn out that free speech, anything goes line - As long as it's attacking someone else, theyre fine. Not so when the 'joke' is on them. Free speechers act wounded in the face of retaliation - they either didn't meeeeean it or you're too sensitive for not finding their free speech joke funny l. Then they've the nerve to be boringly indignant about it 🙄.

Attacking the guardian for hating women whilst defending jordan peterson is fucking funny btw.

I really don't see anyone on the right getting outraged about Jo Brand's comment in and of itself, unless I've missed something (I'm sure Zipee can correct me!). The reaction has been far more about different ends of the spectrum being held to different standards of conduct

Yes, I 100% believe this. I don’t think many on the right care about what jokes who makes, it’s the double standards that’s the problem.

Free speech is being defended by hose on the right much more than those on the left at the moment, but in all honestly, it shouldn’t be a left/right thing, it should just be a people thing.

Attacking the guardian for hating women whilst defending jordan peterson is fucking funny btw

Why? Jordan B Peterson doesn’t hate women, does he?

Rhetorical question! Obviously he doesn’t hate women

I think Zipee is right, tbh.

"you dont know what effect the labvaugae had on the man".
Except for the fact that he shouted nationalist slogans as he comitted the crime?

Jordan Peterson doesn't hate women, but then neither does the Guardian, Jordan Peterson does however believe in male supremacy, and doesn't believe that sexism is a major issueor male or white privilege

I think Zipee is right, tbh
Zipee has made varied, and at times conflicting statements.
Which one/s do you think are right?

I am starting to think it's unladylike to have a battle of wits with the unarmed tbh. I think Zipee might be a kid.

funny that you resort to ad hominem attacks in the debate then isn't it.

The London bombings happened before Brexit, did they whip up a fever that made the conditions for Brexit possible?
(I’m following your logic now Zipee)
So according to Zipees logic, Islam caused Brexit.
Do you see the rabbit holes down which your logic takes us?

I'm not attacking you. I genuinely want to know your position but you aren't expressing them very coherently.