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DH and I have been told we aren’t doing enough - AWBU?

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NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 13:21

Name changed as could be outing.

DH and I have twin toddlers at 19mo. They are a handful and a half to manage but we do our best. General day goes as follows:

8am Twins wake - we change nappies and clothes, give them water to drink and morning snack then let them play in their room together (room is secure with little to no risk of injuries)

9.30am Proper breakfast downstairs in high chairs. I either eat with them or read to them during this period.

10-11am play downstairs, a bit of Hey Duggee on the television if I’m feeling particularly knackered. Nappy changes and and when required for the rest of the day.

11am-3pm Bottles (for nutritional supplement). Then they take their one long nap of the day (they are still low weight following premature birth so sleep a heck of a lot. HV doesn’t think this is a concern). I use this time to do what housework I can during the week and DH chips in at the weekends. Usually I manage the most important jobs (clothes washing/drying, pots, sweeping and mopping floors, general cleaning of the areas they like to make as messy as possible haha)

3pm They wake. I take them another drink of water and snack in their room and get their dinner ready. If DH is home he will play with them in their room, if I’m alone I will alternate between sorting dinner and playing in their room.

4pm Dinner served. We eat together.

5pm - 7pm they play downstairs roaming about with toys on offer for them to choose from. Might have a bit of Tele on in the background. Water/Juice available as and when needed.

7pm Light snack

8pm Upstairs for bedtime routine. Asleep by 8.30/9pm and sleep through (generally) until morning.

Now here comes our AWBU - the above is our standard day at home. Things change a bit if the weather is nice and we can take them out of course (that’s like a military operation in of itself most times 😂). Today my PIL (DH’s parents of course) have visited and decided to tell us that we have no excuse for wires being in places DD and DS might grab them (we tidy them away as best we can and never leave them in the living room unattended) that the house is not as clean as it ought to be and we don’t do enough for the Twins to stimulate/exercise them.

When PIL visit the twins normal routine is often at the point where they’re winding down for the morning and due to go for their nap so they don’t SEE what we do for the rest of the day, nor do they think to ask. They just came straight down with their judgment of the situation.

To make matters worse, DH and I are currently grieving the loss of our third child, our second son, who was stillborn on the 25th of April this year. We are just about keeping our heads above water.

We have a lot of ongoing financial difficulties that we are just about managing but this adds stress too. Sometimes I have to leave the twins in their room a little longer than I would like so I can make some much needed phone calls and such....

It just feels like we’ve been told today that regardless of our “excuses” we need to do better... and we’re extremely upset by this. MIL cried when we defended our position because she didn’t think we’d react badly (we didn’t get aggressive we just didn’t appreciate their decision to say all this now!) and basically it’s left us feeling that we’re never good enough.

My mum and dad visit more regularly and they’ve never felt the need to judge our house and when I’m apologising for the mess (toys everywhere, pots not yet washed sometimes, or before I’ve been able to sweep up after a meal where half the contents were dropped on the floor etc.) they laugh and say don’t worry about it, it shows we have two very normal toddlers...

I guess I just want to know were we being unreasonable to be defensive as PIL said they only mentioned these things with their DC’s best interests at heart... or were they being unreasonable in their expectations of us?

Sorry for the long post - just feeling utterly exhausted at the moment and I fight my “mum guilt” a lot for already feeling like I should be able to do more for my lovely twins - so this has knocked my confidence and then some.

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1stMrsF · 08/06/2019 17:04

I have twins. They are 10yo now but I remember the toddler years. They were very hard (and I wasn't bereaved). You sound like you are doing brilliantly. Nothing wrong with twins playing together in a safe room while you do other things if they are content.

One of the best things I learned from being a parent of multiples is that good enough parenting is good enough. There are no prizes for being exceptional.

NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 17:04

And they’re not away from me in their room, only when I need to nip out ugh, my words keep failing me today!

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ragmayo · 08/06/2019 17:06

As a parent of singles, and twins, and as someone with a semblance of common sense, your pil are v unreasonable not to mention rude. It sounds like you're doing wonderfully, the only thing I would suggest is to make time for yourselves too. The housework will always be there, and it's much better to be with your children than have a pristine house.

lboogy · 08/06/2019 17:06

With all due respect, MiL can fuck right off

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 08/06/2019 17:07

Titus- honestly my toddler is in whatever room I'm in! If I'm in the kitchen cooking, he is doing crafts at the table or pretending to cook with pans on the floor. If I'm cleaning, he follows me round and helps/sits sweeping the floor with a brush etc and is chattering to me constantly. I once left him alone in his room and he managed to rip a chunk of cardboard from a book and nearly choke on it.

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 08/06/2019 17:08

Navi thanks for clarifying. Ignore the PILs but for YOUR wellbeing it might help to gradually start trying to get out a bit more. And as the weather gets better parks/duckponds etc are free and easy.

Flamingnorahs · 08/06/2019 17:09

You're doing amazing.

PIL are cockwombles.

So sorry for your loss xxx

NoIDontWatchLoveIsland · 08/06/2019 17:09

Also mine is awake at 6.30 or earlier but has a cup of milk, we don't eat breakfast until 8am. That's normal, don't worry about that

MorondelaFrontera · 08/06/2019 17:09

NaviSprite
oh don't get me wrong, I didn't mean to be judgmental, I was thinking for your own sanity! It would drive me nuts to be stuck at home.

Of course you do need to rest and take care of yourself, which is pretty much impossible with pre-school kids! Without knowing your little one health issue, it's just sometimes easier when the kids are outside and playing with new toys than having them at home all day. It also makes the day goes a lot quicker.

Your PIL are out of order.

Freudianslip1 · 08/06/2019 17:10

You're doing really well OP Flowers

Dungeondragon15 · 08/06/2019 17:11

It sounds as if you are the type of person who tries really hard OP which is why your PIL have particularly upset you. I think that many of us have to or have had to deal with these kinds of comments but considering what you are going through it is amazingly insensitive of them. They should be making your life easier not harder. It sounds like you are doing fine and if they make any more comments tell them to either help or shut up (or get your DH to do it).

imamearcat · 08/06/2019 17:16

Arr ok, that makes more sense! In that case they should mind their own business.

NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 17:17

@NoIDontWatchLoveIsland

Absolutely want to get out more as I used to be such an outdoors oriented person - and I can’t wait to take them out to feed ducks when I can. They love going to my Mums allotment when she can take them as they have chickens and DD especially finds watching them hilarious! I’m waiting for them to hopefully take to walking soon. I try to get them to wander with me holding their hands as much as I can every day (practically) but they just don’t want to and fall on their bums and if I try it too much they get very angry/distressed - but life will be a bit easier with getting them out and about when they’re more mobile.

But at the moment if I even see a pregnant woman or parents with a little newborn it breaks my heart a bit more and that sets my head into a bit of a tailspin if I’m not as mentally prepared as I can be for it. Some days I do really well, others not so well but I know that will get better with time.

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Silvercatowner · 08/06/2019 17:20

I dont understand why they are in their room so much and eating in there?

Why do you need to understand that????

OP - Flowers
If I were near I'd come and do some cleaning if you wanted me to.

Xmas2020 · 08/06/2019 17:20

I am so sorry for your loss, i cannot even begin to imagine how difficult this is, plus having twins on top.

Get by one day at a time, i think perhaps your PiIL have the best of intentions but perhaps not very diplomatic in saying so. Take any help they can give you until you feel life is getting easier. As hard as it is right now, your twins still need mummy and daddy to be there for them.Thanks

mumwon · 08/06/2019 17:20

Op I meant to also say my deepest sympathy for your little one - keeping your head above water & grieving as well - I think your mil should be offering help rather than criticism -

Happygolucy123 · 08/06/2019 17:22

So sorry for your loss, OP, I hope you and your partner find peace and heal.

Your PIL may be a little out of touch with your situation, if you can bear it, they may benefit a visit to you earlier in the day so they can see how well you're meeting your children's needs.
If your DC are happy and healthy and your HV is happy, keep on keeping on, you're doing great. Busybodies love to share their opinions on topics and people they know nothing about. Follow your gut and mothering instinct and you'll do fine. Don't question your mothering, it's natural! And remember, children thrive with much less love and support than you are giving yours so whatever you do to support their development and meet their needs, if they're healthy and happy, you're doing the right thing.

saraclara · 08/06/2019 17:23

..then we lost him and we want to get back to being active but we need time to get there. It’s not like I want them in their room away from me constantly but the birth has left me physically battered and the loss has left me mentally and emotionally exhausted

See, that's why I think you should contact home start again, or something similar. You need help and non judgmental support to get you back to managing your day in the way you'd like, and for the sake of your little ones. There are people out there who would be happy to befriend you for a while and ease you back into life.

Do ask your HV if she can refer you.

NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 17:24

Sorry I misspelled your name @MorondelaFrontera - I didn’t take it as judgmental sorry my reply made it seem that I did Brew you’re absolutely right it does get a bit frustrating (especially after the first 12 months I was cooped up in a tiny flat with them, DD on a home oxygen machine and a horribly aggressive neighbour who harassed us and even tried to spit on my twins once on a rare occasion I took them out whilst we lived there) and BC I was out and about all the time so I want to get back to some of that as soon as I can physically and mentally for my sake and the twins 😊

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MorondelaFrontera · 08/06/2019 17:28

NaviSprite
don't worry about that Smile
hope it gets easier quickly for you but never be ashamed to ask for help Flowers

foreverhanging · 08/06/2019 17:30

Op my love you're doing a wonderful job, especially in the circumstances. You will get there xx

woodcutbirds · 08/06/2019 17:31

First, they are your children and it is your life. You live it the way that you can. None of us can live happily by trying to fulfil other people's opinions and demands.

The only thing I'd ask is - did the comments upset you because you feel there's truth in them? Is there something you wish you were doing differently?

I would personally want more stimulation for my DC and for me - my rule was one activity outside the house very day: baby music or playgroup, soft play or library story sessions, and a few sessions each week to catch up with other adults so I stayed sane. I liked a lot of fresh air too so we went to the park most days.
But I had severe PND and was really hyper at the time. I look back and wonder if we'd all ave been happier if I'd slobbed in PJs and turned the telly on more (which happens all the time now they are teens!)

there's no right or wrong way, only the way that works best for you. If you feel there's a grain of truth in what they say, then get out and about more. Are the twins chatting yet? Reaching milestones adjusted for prem birth? Are they curious about the world? If they are happy and thriving and developing and you are content, keep going as you are. If not, make some manageable small changes.

EdtheBear · 08/06/2019 17:32

Op I've not read all the posts. While I want to give both of them a slap.

I think you should text "MIL your right the place could do with a clean to help us get on top of it. Could you do it? My priority after DC3 is spending quality time with the twins"

Kind of hard for them to say no. And might make them think twice before opening their mouths again.

mamaoffourdc · 08/06/2019 17:33

I think time in their room is no different than playing in the lounge - it's just a safe place. I think you are doing an incredible job xxx

NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 17:34

@saraclara and others who have mentioned home start. I will discuss it when I see HV next week as she knows me quite well at this point so if she feels it will be a benefit I’ll ask her to refer me.

She hasn’t raised any concerns with the structure of our days, having made some of the suggestions herself along with our Counsellor who comes to the house quite frequently as well, but it’s worth exploring what avenues we can 😊

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