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DH and I have been told we aren’t doing enough - AWBU?

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NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 13:21

Name changed as could be outing.

DH and I have twin toddlers at 19mo. They are a handful and a half to manage but we do our best. General day goes as follows:

8am Twins wake - we change nappies and clothes, give them water to drink and morning snack then let them play in their room together (room is secure with little to no risk of injuries)

9.30am Proper breakfast downstairs in high chairs. I either eat with them or read to them during this period.

10-11am play downstairs, a bit of Hey Duggee on the television if I’m feeling particularly knackered. Nappy changes and and when required for the rest of the day.

11am-3pm Bottles (for nutritional supplement). Then they take their one long nap of the day (they are still low weight following premature birth so sleep a heck of a lot. HV doesn’t think this is a concern). I use this time to do what housework I can during the week and DH chips in at the weekends. Usually I manage the most important jobs (clothes washing/drying, pots, sweeping and mopping floors, general cleaning of the areas they like to make as messy as possible haha)

3pm They wake. I take them another drink of water and snack in their room and get their dinner ready. If DH is home he will play with them in their room, if I’m alone I will alternate between sorting dinner and playing in their room.

4pm Dinner served. We eat together.

5pm - 7pm they play downstairs roaming about with toys on offer for them to choose from. Might have a bit of Tele on in the background. Water/Juice available as and when needed.

7pm Light snack

8pm Upstairs for bedtime routine. Asleep by 8.30/9pm and sleep through (generally) until morning.

Now here comes our AWBU - the above is our standard day at home. Things change a bit if the weather is nice and we can take them out of course (that’s like a military operation in of itself most times 😂). Today my PIL (DH’s parents of course) have visited and decided to tell us that we have no excuse for wires being in places DD and DS might grab them (we tidy them away as best we can and never leave them in the living room unattended) that the house is not as clean as it ought to be and we don’t do enough for the Twins to stimulate/exercise them.

When PIL visit the twins normal routine is often at the point where they’re winding down for the morning and due to go for their nap so they don’t SEE what we do for the rest of the day, nor do they think to ask. They just came straight down with their judgment of the situation.

To make matters worse, DH and I are currently grieving the loss of our third child, our second son, who was stillborn on the 25th of April this year. We are just about keeping our heads above water.

We have a lot of ongoing financial difficulties that we are just about managing but this adds stress too. Sometimes I have to leave the twins in their room a little longer than I would like so I can make some much needed phone calls and such....

It just feels like we’ve been told today that regardless of our “excuses” we need to do better... and we’re extremely upset by this. MIL cried when we defended our position because she didn’t think we’d react badly (we didn’t get aggressive we just didn’t appreciate their decision to say all this now!) and basically it’s left us feeling that we’re never good enough.

My mum and dad visit more regularly and they’ve never felt the need to judge our house and when I’m apologising for the mess (toys everywhere, pots not yet washed sometimes, or before I’ve been able to sweep up after a meal where half the contents were dropped on the floor etc.) they laugh and say don’t worry about it, it shows we have two very normal toddlers...

I guess I just want to know were we being unreasonable to be defensive as PIL said they only mentioned these things with their DC’s best interests at heart... or were they being unreasonable in their expectations of us?

Sorry for the long post - just feeling utterly exhausted at the moment and I fight my “mum guilt” a lot for already feeling like I should be able to do more for my lovely twins - so this has knocked my confidence and then some.

OP posts:
adriennewillfly · 08/06/2019 13:38

YABU for not killing them in the face immediately. Can't believe they'd have the gall to say something like that. DH should have a word with them.

namynom · 08/06/2019 13:38

So you lost a child less than two months ago and PIL are coming round to tell you the house isn’t clean enough?! I am utterly gobsmacked. I’m so sorry for your loss OP what a tragic thing to have to deal with as well as looking after young twins. I’m amazed you’re doing as well as you are sticking with a routine with them at all at this stage it’s still very early days. Flowers

I hope your PIL realise how out of order they are and apologise. Otherwise I don’t see how this won’t effect your relationship with them.

Vibiano · 08/06/2019 13:38

I haven't read your list because frankly it's irrelevant. How you parent your children is up to you and DH and their opinions don't matter unless asked for. They are horrible horrible people and if you decided never to speak to them again YWNBU.

I am very sorry for your loss.

KnittingSister · 08/06/2019 13:38

I think you're doing really well to get out of bed in the morning, the rest is just a bonus Flowers for you and all your babies

MypreciousWaja · 08/06/2019 13:39

Op, it sounds like you're doing a great job. Are your twins loved, clothed, fed, safe and happy? If yes, you're doing absolutely everything you need to be doing.

I'm so, so sorry for the loss of your precious baby. Dont dwell on what your pil said. Try not to fall out. Tell your dh to have a word with them to let them know how they made you both feel. Warn them that any more comments in this vein may be impossible to forgive. Then try to move on Flowers

Soontobe60 · 08/06/2019 13:39

My initial thoughts are that they are on their own a lot, and also why no lunch?
You've got twin toddlers, of course your house is going to be a bit messy! I'd want to have my children playing in the room where I am, maybe get a playpen or safety gates so they are not in their bedroom so much. That way, at least if you're busy you can still talk with the as you're working. Hats off to you though, twins!! 👶🏼👶🏼

ZippyBungleandGeorge · 08/06/2019 13:39

Oh and fuck the cleaning

Cloudhopping · 08/06/2019 13:39

It sounds like you are providing absolutely everything your twins need, and this is to be applauded considering what you’ve been through. Your in laws have been unbelievably out of order and should be ashamed of themselves.

So sorry for your loss OP.

SeamstressfromTreacleMineRoad · 08/06/2019 13:39

I am Shock at such cruelty and nastiness. I'm a MIL and I simply cannot ever imagine being so awful to my DS & DIL - let alone when they were 2 weeks into grieving for a lost baby while still trying to wrangle 19 month-old twins..!
Please distance yourselves from them - they have neither your nor your DC's interests at heart. You are doing amazingly well to be functioning at the moment - let alone thinking up 'stimulating activities' for your DTs (who sound perfectly fine)...!!
Flowers for you and DH

ffs74 · 08/06/2019 13:40

I've got teenagers but dh works madly long hours leaving me the part timer to shoulder most household stuff. My parents reaction when our garden was frankly looking shit? They've started coming once a week to help us with it.
You have twins ffs, they sound awful, they should be mucking in not judging you!
Sorry for your loss op Thanks

NaviSprite · 08/06/2019 13:41

DH stood up to them today and did so of his own volition and he’s said, if that’s what they’re going to be like for now we’re going to say no visits for a few weeks and is more than happy to tell them that as well.

I just don’t want arguments to arise when they might think they’re coming ‘from the right place’ but really don’t have any idea what our days are like outside of the small window into our lives they have.

Doesn’t help that MIL is a neat freak so we’ve always known her expectations of cleanliness are a bit over the top. I’m not shy of confrontation, but I don’t want to cause an irreparable rift. We’ve lost enough already if that makes sense? So I’m actually holding DH back from letting fly at them Confused

OP posts:
SeamstressfromTreacleMineRoad · 08/06/2019 13:41

Sorry - 6-weeks … Apologies OP

onalongsabbatical · 08/06/2019 13:41

You've got twin toddlers and you're grieving a lost baby, too? What the fuck is wrong with them? I'd be showering you with medals every single time you get through a day in one piece.
I'm so sorry you lost your baby. Flowers
Do
Not
Listen
To
Them.

Divinelyuninspired · 08/06/2019 13:42

I can’t see why they are in their room so much on their own.

AJPTaylor · 08/06/2019 13:43

They are fucking morons.

80sMum · 08/06/2019 13:44

Rather than picking fault why can't your in-laws offer some help!!!

I was just thinking the same thing! Why don't they offer to take the twins out?

Treaclesweet · 08/06/2019 13:45

You sound like you're doing a great job in very difficult circumstance. Would it be possible for you to get a days childcare for them? Then you could catch up on housework. Perhaps MIL would like to offer to take them once a week? Doubt it though. They sound like awful people and I would stop having them round if I were you.

Oddbutnotodd · 08/06/2019 13:45

It always amazes me that other people think that grief is a process that happens and then you’re supposed to be back to normal in no time at all. It’s only been 6 weeks or so! You’ve barely had time to begin to process what has happened to you.

I’m so sorry for your loss. You sound like you’re doing everything you can. It’s your life not theirs. I think you need to gently ask them to not comment. Yes, they could be a bit kinder. Losing a child must be awful and your twins are at a difficult stage.

💐 for you both.

ZoomingCockerel · 08/06/2019 13:46

Please take no notice of them. What awful people. I can't get over this - what must be going through their heads?
I would go NC.

Burlea · 08/06/2019 13:46

When my daughter had 3 under 3 year olds her home in my standards was a tip. I didn't moan or complain I just rolled my sleeves up and asked what can I do to help.
I did the same for our sons family.
If your pil start moaning kick then out and reduce contact. As long as your children are loved and cared for that is all that matters
When your twins are older then you can have a tidy home.
I am so sorry for the loss of your 3rd child.

janetforpresident · 08/06/2019 13:46

I am so sorry my for their loss.

I just want to say I hope you aren't doing housework for the whole time they are asleep every day! You deserve a break. Be kinder to yourself and ignore the idiot pil. If a house is like a show home it means your kids aren't having enough fun imo.

Obly one thing i noticed - not sure what you mean about wires but can you secure them against the wall?. Your should be able to leave DC to play safely in the lounge as they get older.

janetforpresident · 08/06/2019 13:47

Sorry that should have said I am so sorry for your loss.

Caxx · 08/06/2019 13:47

Sorry for your loss but I dont understand why they are in their room so much and eating in there?

WhatchaMaCalllit · 08/06/2019 13:48

I'm so sorry for your loss and I think you're doing brilliantly under very difficult circumstances.
Time for your DH to have a short word with his parents. Something along the lines of "Mum, Dad. I know you mean well but you have no idea what you're talking about. You're being very rude to us and we're doing our best under the circumstances. You're being very hurtful. You always taught me that if I didn't have any thing nice to say, to say nothing. You should take that advice. If you see cables untended to, and you're concerned, by all means we would appreciate that you can arrange for and pay for someone to attend to them. They are not important to us at the moment. We are coming to terms with losing a new addition to our family and it is we are not wasting time on stray cables when we can be spending time with our children. If you don't want to help us, then you'll not be offended when I ask you to leave. Now, what's it to be? Would you like me to make you a cup of tea while you mull over what I've just said?"

BazaarMum · 08/06/2019 13:49

I was going to say is it just badly expressed concern for how you might be coping, but such a short time after a dreadful loss it sounds like you are coping amazingly and they should be doing nothing apart from supporting you without comment. If they are ‘concerned’ they can take a wash away with them, push the hoover round, come and take the twins to the park so you can do your calls in peace.

I hope they think on and apologise, they really should Flowers