To think there seems no depth to which remainers...

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Will not stoop in persecuting Brexiteers. Childish namecalling 'thick', 'racist' 'gammon', and now the vexatious private prosecution against Boris Johnson which was quashed before it even got to court.

FWIW @Whizbang , I also see government analysis of Leave in my job. Lots of hard working thoughtful analysis from people determined to make Leave work. It cheers me. But No Deal is a different matter.
As for "the remainer parliament "? What rot. We haven't left because WA doesn't pander to ERG incompetent fantasy. We would have left by now if they didn't have to balls to suck it up. And the current parliament was voted for By The People. So they are enacting what people voted for. Which clearly isn't No Deal.

but they didn't, not if they didn't.

Bluejag, the financial benefits of Leaving will benefit but a few. The rest of us will be paying more for everything. Including more tax. So I hope your hubris is a result of your impeccably secure financial position. Where hubris goes before nemesis is not far behind. Better cross those fingers.

No Deal is completely anti British. It's the triumph of ideology over sense and pragmatism. It is also probably the end of the Union (and I don't mean the European one), so quite literally anti British.

Well said @Songsofexperience

Thanks moomin

I've seen more leavers complain about being called thick and racist than I've actually seen people calling them it.

Its a bit of a strawman tbh.

I agree @Zipee . No Dealers are either thick or snake oil salesmen. And in bed with racists. Happy to say that again and again. Leave voters aren't. I disagree with them but I have seen plenty of evidence to show they aren't thick.

It's a thoughtful post from @Whizbang . I actually thought some actual leave benefits would be explained. Us one again the benefits outlined consist of 'service industry' benefits, with no depth to the statement at all. What parts of the service industry? I can only see a benefit to uk tourism - travel abroad is already more expensive due to the fall in the pound so more locals will holiday in the uk, and I can't see any improvement in Sterling. So, rejuvenation of coastal resorts may happen, but at what cost elsewhere?

Nope, I'm still happy to take the moral high ground. None of my friends or family voted for this shit; maybe some of my acquaintances did. I am actively proud NOT to be a Leaver or even worse a No Dealer. I may have to live with the consequences when it all goes tits up, as will my children and my DH with cancer, but at least I can say 'not in my name'. Which will probs be cold comfort, but the best I can get.

Unfortunately, the effective solution to the current clusterfuck is one that I doubt anyone in power has the sense, let alone the empathy with others, to administer.
The solution is a substantial injection of money into the poorest areas; investment in affordable housing, schools, hospitals and the general infrastructure. To be paid for by taxing the superwealthy and enforcing tax laws. Either revoke article 50 or get a long delay: perhaps two or three years, while the economy gets properly sorted out.

Once people are less angry and less despairing, and see more of a future for themselves and their families, all but the most deluded racist wingnuts will stop caring about Brexit one way or the other. And deluded racist wingnuts can be fairly safely ignored (well, when they are not being locked up for harassing or assaulting other people, of course.)

If Corbyn had won the 2017 election and immediately got started on his manifesto promises (lifting people out of poverty and reducing inequality) things would be a lot better already. I'm not a huge fan of Corbyn, particularly regarding the way he has fucked up all the goodwill he managed to generate a coupe of years ago by being hopeless over both anti-semitism and Brexit, but he could hardly have made a worse mess than May has.

I was a bit surprised to read that someone thinks that services might benefit from Brexit.

Given that the EU is virtually the only trading agreement in the world that allows for free movement of services, and that something like 80% of our exports are in services, I find it hard to see how that could possibly benefit us...