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Anti porn

168 replies

Fakenametodayhey · 07/06/2019 15:29

Prompted by another thread.
What are opinions on partners watching porn or watching porn yourself?
Seen a few comments where women are upset by husbands watching porn. Do you think its akin to cheating? Very interested

OP posts:
Honeybee85 · 07/06/2019 17:34

Do I like DH watching porn?
No I don’t - but as long as it’s not illegal/ disturbing content I am willing to accept it as long as I am not confronted with it.

I used to watch porn together with one of my exes as a part of foreplay and we both really enjoyed it.

NCforthis2019 · 07/06/2019 17:35

I don’t have an issue with it - one of our good friends is actually a porn director (not in England)

Thesuzle · 07/06/2019 17:40

On a side note, two TVs we have bought over the recent years came with the porn channels apparently tuned in ready to go.
I know I can block them but when I’m scrolling through the channel listings they are still on the screen, i find that very annoying and an insidious way of getting porn into homes .

BettysLeftTentacle · 07/06/2019 17:41

I don’t think watching porn is cheating but I have a massive problem with it for all the reasons listed here and more. There’s no place for it in my relationship or in my life and I’ve always been upfront that it’s a boundary for me. I don’t care who doesn’t have a problem with it and I don’t care what those people think of me.

Bluerussian · 07/06/2019 17:42

It's just rather gross and shows a lack of self control.

Hidingtonothing · 07/06/2019 17:43

In my experience men who watch a lot of porn are bad in bed so I wouldn't want a partner who was heavily into it for that reason. I don't see it as cheating but think it can provoke much the same reaction as cheating in terms of emotion for a partner, especially if it's being chosen in preference to sex with them.

And then there are the broader issues, exploitation and abuse within the industry, effects of long term or habitual use (on both the user and wider society) etc. It's not difficult to see why some women have a problem with it really, there's not much about it that's good or of benefit to us but there's lots of ways it can cause damage in our lives, whether that's through direct involvement or the effect it has on society and our relationships.

U2HasTheEdge · 07/06/2019 17:48

OP in the other thread where you questioned me you said you never thought of the girls as people before.

That is one of the reasons I am against porn.

I am against the industry and I think it is sleazy.

I have no idea why you think people have a problem with porn because they think it is cheating. I asked on the other thread but got my reply. Are you male?

BettysLeftTentacle · 07/06/2019 17:57

To be fair ive never thought of the girls as people before

Just found it straight from the horses mouth.

Grim.

Fairylea · 07/06/2019 18:00

A few years ago before mumsnet I would have said it doesn’t bother me at all although I don’t watch it myself but now I feel uncomfortable about the whole industry- I think it leaves people open to exploitation even if some of it is well regulated and I think it gives people - especially younger people - a bad view of sex and their expectations surrounding it.

I don’t view it as cheating though and if I found out my dh watched it I would only be upset from the above points of view. Luckily he feels the same as me - I have no reason to doubt this as when we first met 10 years ago I said to him I couldn’t care less if he watched it (all my previous partners did) and he was very against it from the get go.

Whatsername7 · 07/06/2019 18:05

My dhs habitual consumption of it affected his mental health and almost cost us our marriage. It affected our sex life in many ways. His expectations were warped by what he saw and, as a result, intimacy was lost. If I indulged him it never quite lived up to the fantasy or he wpuld push for the next thing. If I didnt, our sex life was 'boring' to him. I felt like a blow up sex doll. Porn also became boring to him and he looked for other ways to get his fix, including signing up to Ashley Madison type sites to trawl for pictures. This led to an emotional affair with a colleague that involved lots of exchanges of messages and flirting. He confessed to it all just before things became physical. We ended up in counciling. At the time, I only stayed with him because I had a 4 year old who adored him and I was pregnant. However, counciling and him overcoming his porn addiction did improve things to the point that we could move forward. So yes, I have an issue with my dh watching porn, so does he. He was an addict and it was devestating for him.

cake7pn · 07/06/2019 18:07

I don't like it and would be a bit disgusted if I found out DH was watching it. While I think ethical porn can exist I think most of it features exploited women in sexual situations I wouldn't feel comfortable in (not that everyone has to like what I do, but I can't be ok with someone doing something for money I wouldn't choose to do myself).

cake7pn · 07/06/2019 18:08

The Jon Robson podcast really opened my eyes when one of the performers said most in the industry were on the verge of a serious breakdown.

Myheartbelongsto · 07/06/2019 18:10

I watch it, my boyfriend watches it probably, don't care, none of my business.

If a husband tells his wife he's not watching it as you don't want him to, then he probably is. Just saying.

motherheroic · 07/06/2019 18:14

@U2HasTheEdge I agree. You often have people saying 'It's not real life, it's just fantasy'. As if it's holograms having sex and not real life people.

inco · 07/06/2019 18:23

The problem I have with porn is that it’s crap. 99% of it is unattractive people in some grotty room or setting. Cringe-inducing “plots” and they just look stupid.

Porn has introduced some fairly unpleasant practises into the “mainstream” - eg. choking, facials, anal, face slapping, forced bjs etc.

99% of it is not about sex. It’s about the humiliation of women.

This obviously has a massive impact on society.

My DH is very respectful of women in general life. I would have said he was one of the decent men, the “good ones”, however he’s told me he watches porn. He won’t say how often. He said something about only watching the lesbian stuff and nothing with men in it. He said all men watch it to masturbate. It hasn’t affected our sex life and I guess I’ve had to just accept it, although when I actually think about it, it’s depressing. There is no way you can only view “ethical porn” because the videos are playing on loop as soon as you navigate the site. It’s also the vile misogynistic captions I object to.

After DH told me he watches porn I went and had a look on the sites. For anyone who has ever been sexually abused in any way, there will be something very triggering within a few clicks. Once you get beyond the initial horror, you become almost numbed to it and my main reaction now is to be bored by how seedy and pathetic it is.

I do wish the porn “actresses” and the people who make these degrading videos wouid stop and think about the millions of women who, st any given moment, are being abused in similar ways in real life. They are glamorising and normalising abuse.

If there were free websites which contained racist any other derogatory captions eg racist and / or degrading imagery against any other sector of society, there wouid be outrage and the sites wouid be banned. Yet, because it’s only women that are the focus of degradation, the porn industry is allowed to flourish.

DoxxedFox · 07/06/2019 18:29

So much of porn involves the subjugation of women. It’s all spitting in faces/ coercion/ holding them by the neck. I think anyone who subjects themselves to that stuff regularly and conditions their body and brain to react favourably to it is on a slippery slope to become a misogynist with a numb dick. And that’s without getting into the politics of trafficking.

fantasmasgoria1 · 07/06/2019 18:29

I don't like porn. As doobydoobydoo said if my fiance finds me attractive and sexy there is no need for him to look at porn. My fiance doesn't look at it and never has been a lover of it. People on here say all men look and i have shown threads to my fiance and he said its rubbish. In his job he doesn't have the opportunity to look and the rest of the time we spend together. I have good reasons for my dislike of it related to abuse.

Dyrne · 07/06/2019 18:33

Teenage girls are being conditioned into thinking sex isn’t supposed to be pleasurable for them. That it’s supposed to hurt. That anal sex with zero preparation or foreplay is a normal thing.

Just over a week ago a lesbian couple on a bus were thoroughly beaten because they didn’t want to kiss for the entertainment of a group of men.

Anyone that doesn’t think porn has a major part to play on those two things needs to give their heads a wobble.

Dyrne · 07/06/2019 18:41

The trouble is redspider1 most teens will just use a VPN to get round it - plus i’m worried women and girls will be pressured into making amateur porn which will get circulated.

Notabedofroses · 07/06/2019 18:41

It’s a definite no in our house. Dh hates it more than me, it dehumanises, exploits mainly women and is really icky.
It puts me off and makes me feel nauseous rather than a turn on of any sort.

redspider1 · 07/06/2019 18:45

There is a different type sexy stuff out there. I don't like the word porn. as I said upthread, the site Bright Desire is made by women for women and features real couples with normal bodies and is not demeaning.

StreetwiseHercules · 07/06/2019 18:53

Like anything, it depends on the porn. It’s a media genre, and condemning it on the whole is just silly. Like saying all action movies are bad because they glorify killing.

Adult humans have an appetite for sex and are interested in watching it and seeing fantasies played out. It’s called the human condition.

There is of course plenty of awful and degrading pornography, but likewise plenty that is entirely morally benign.

Nudity, sex, desire are not things which are shameful or wrong and it’s time as a progressive and liberal society that the notion of shame around these things was put behind us.

A massive proportion of internet traffic in the UK is porn, being consumed by men and by women. The more it is out of the shadows, the more it can be regulated and made as ethical for everyone whose to be involved in its production as possible.

Time we all grew up.

BertrandRussell · 07/06/2019 18:59

“Time we all grew up“

Whenever anyone says that to me I just know I’m going to be asked to lower my ethical standards.

Dyrne · 07/06/2019 19:00

StreetwiseHercules Please point to a single poster who has objected to porn on the grounds of prudishness.