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AIBU to be a shocked at a parent leaving their 4 month old home alone for 10 minutes

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NotMyUsualNameNoSiree · 06/06/2019 12:55

I overheard a conversation at school the other day, a mum was telling another mum how she left her young DD (4mo) at home while she picked up her DS (aged 5 or 6) from school.

I believe she lives around the corner and across the road from school, maybe 1 or 2 minutes walk. But pick-up would probably take 10 minutes in total to get the kid, get him ready, leave school premises and get home.

Of course I rationally know that no harm is likely to come to a 4mo left alone for ten minutes. But even if it's very very unlikely that anything bad would happen (to the baby, or the mum, or the older kid), it still gives me the chills to think about it.

Instinctively I want to say something, whether to her or the school. But I don't know if I'm being over cautious.

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MrMakersFartyParty · 11/06/2019 12:29

@greenrockstar and @dorsetdays, we keep coming back because it is quite distressing to know there are some parents like this out there. I know there are some shit parents but it's sad to know that someone can be so detached and dismissive of their bond and responsibilities to their child that they can actually leave them on their own.
Saying that you can't fathom @Ginlinessisnexttogodliness being upset at her child's face when left alone, just shows the difference between a good loving parent and you. Your idea of parenting is very poor and I imagine your bond is nothing really when compared with parents who actually do a proper safe job.

If you spent one shift working in paeds A&E, or had to resuscitate babies like I have had to do, you would see that the unimaginable actually happens quite often.

MrMakersFartyParty · 11/06/2019 12:30

I think they probably were used to being left dorset so didn't really notice you were gone.

Ginlinessisnexttogodliness · 11/06/2019 12:32

@Dorsetdays I feel ill at the thought of my baby being alone, crying for me and my not being there because I chose to fuck off down the road and leave him in an empty house. Not because he woke up and cried, for one or five minutes. Not because I’m anxious.

I chose to have him, and with that choice come certain responsibilities. One of those being that I am there for him at such a young and vulnerable age, with no unreasonable or unnecessary or unacceptable impediments.

Dorsetdays · 11/06/2019 12:33

MrMakers. Not feeling physically ill when my child cried on waking from a nap doesn’t make someone a bad parent. Good grief 😂😂😂

I’d actually genuinely be concerned if I did feel that way because to me it would indicate perhaps I wasn’t coping.

I save feeling physically ill for thinking about things like my child being diagnosed with a serious illness or dying. Not crying for 3 minutes after a nap.

But we’re all different aren’t we?

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 12:36

@herculepoirot2 calm down with the DRAMA.No where have I said they got away with anything if you read I said sense prevailed and no action was taken. So stop fucking making up lies.

And how YOU can make comment about saying disgusting things about babies when you commented on dead babies and convenience is beyond me.

Glad to see your addressing your MN time this morning and cutting back, god knows you need to.

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 12:38

greenrockstar

It isn’t drama. Their child was taken and never came back. You were using their case like a trump card. You are vile. I have never in my life seen an attitude like it.

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 12:40

@MrMakersFartyParty I'm no shit parent of that I'm 100% sure, on the other hand I look at mothers around me like @herculepoirot2 who spends most of her days MNetting and I shudder!

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 12:41

It isn’t drama. Their child was taken and never came back. You were using their case like a trump card. You are vile. I have never in my life seen an attitude like it.

No fucking shit Sherlock! I was using the case to prove you're all going to be jailed by a judge to be complete and utter bollocks! Which it is!

Ginlinessisnexttogodliness · 11/06/2019 12:43

@Dorsetdays I feel really sad that you have so little respect for other parents that you would seek to belittle my post the way you have done.

You do not know me and you have chosen to miss the main thrust of my crying analogy because you have either put your child in that situation or have no issue with contemplating it. Thus you have decided to pour scorn on my words and manipulate them. My whole point was that I could not snide causing unnecessary distress to any of my children. Not whether they are chilled out babies in a cot.

You know Jack shit about my children, my parenting other then my views on this issue.

Because I think leaving your bedbugs or toddler home alone is neglectful, you’ve bagged me as a hyper vigilant loon, projecting anxiety issues into her children. Yet it’s other people who are OTT ???? Hmm

Dorsetdays · 11/06/2019 12:43

That is being dramatic to be fair hercule. It’s probably the most high profile UK case where parents left their DC so on a MN discussion about parents leaving their DC of course it’s going to be mentioned.

Ginlinessisnexttogodliness · 11/06/2019 12:44

-*abide not snide

  • babies not bedbugs but there is a resemblance there Wink
herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 12:45

Dorsetdays

Yes, mentioned to support the argument that you DON’T leave your babies alone, Dorset, not that you can because they weren’t prosecuted.

FFS.

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 12:48

greenrockstar

They were only not jailed because of pity, green, not because what they did was not considered against the law, or because it was okay. Stop digging.

Dorsetdays · 11/06/2019 12:59

I’ve not poured scorn on anything, again you’re being overly dramatic. I was the one being called a bad parent because I personally can’t see that your child crying for a few minutes after a nap would make you feel physically ill.

I also said we’re all different so it’s your decision how to parent. Just as it’s mine too.

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 13:01

They were only not jailed because of pity, green, not because what they did was not considered against the law, or because it was okay. Stop digging.

Oh yeah right of course that's the case.... YOU might think that, but I'm not sure criminal justice works that way. If they had been thought guilty of neglect they would've been prosecuted, instead no case was taken up as they're not neglectful parents.

That statement you've made us utterly ridiculous!! Where was that actually said then? The CPS, Portuguese police, British police?

Honestly that tops the most ridiculous arguement ever! Not prosecuted because we feel sorry for you!! Grin I wonder if all criminals are trying the same line.....

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 13:03

Sorry just realised you said jailed..... when was the trial?

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 13:03

greenrockstar

Half the population of the UK was up in arms because they were not prosecuted, green. Are you seriously telling me you don’t think those children were neglected?

If so, I don’t think I can take anything you say seriously (not that I was anyway) and may have to respond to all your further posts with a 🤡

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 13:04

Whopper.

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 13:09

*They were only not jailed because of pity, green, not because what they did was not considered against the law, or because it was okay. Stop digging.

Half the population of the UK was up in arms because they were not prosecuted, green. Are you seriously telling me you don’t think those children were neglected

Maybe the reason I don’t want to answer you is that I think your use of the McCanns to justify leaving a child alone is a) fucking idiotic and b) fucking disgusting?

They did not “get away with it”. No judge endorsed their decision. They just felt a very human pity for people who made a CATASTROPHIC DECISION to leave their child alone and paid the ultimate price.

You seem to have forgotten that their child hasn’t been seen for ten years and - if there is a god in heaven - was probably killed the night they left her alone.*

All the above have been posted by you @herculepoirot2 in the last half an hour...

One saying they were neglectful, the other it was a catastrophic decision, one saying they were only not jailed out of pity, one saying they've never stood trial to be potentially jailed..... so many angles no much contradiction. So difficult to understand what you are actually saying...

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 13:11

Whopper

???

You've got no argument @herculepoirot2 you've backed yourself into a corner..

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 13:12

greenrockstar

🤡

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 13:13

*greenrockstar
*
🤡

Far too much ch time on your hands given your a supposedly good mother ....

Use your time more with Sekt they'll be grown up soon!

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 13:15

greenrockstar

Who’s Sekt?

greenrockstar · 11/06/2019 13:18

@herculepoirot2 you lasted 12 minutes .... GrinGrin

herculepoirot2 · 11/06/2019 13:19

greenrockstar

Oh, about the time you think it’s okay to leave your baby alone?