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DS deliberately missed bus expecting a lift, I refused and so he bunked off

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CaptainMarvellous · 04/06/2019 14:54

DS is 12. I woke him at 7am expecting him to get up and out the door, I warned him then I was leaving too late to give him a lift. He's supposed to set an alarm but claimed today it didn't go off. The bus goes at 7.20, he has previously got up and caught the bus in 20mins. Today he decided he couldn't. He also told me he wasn't going to walk (60 min walk).
I reminded him that I was leaving too late to drop him, he lied to me and said lessons start 15mins later than they do. He denied knowing what time school starts for the rest of the argument. The crux of it is I refused to give him a lift, locked him out of the house and went out. I was hoping that with no where to go he'd walk to school. I've emailed school to let them know he's effectively bunking. When I returned he's climbed in through a downstairs window (highlighting our crap security).
So who was BU?
I should add I also have 1yo and 7yo DC so DS isn't my focus in the morning. And we will be ferrying him around for his sport 3 evenings this week (think 90min round trips at 8.3pm) for which he shows no gratitude. We can't ditch it as we've agreed to take a friend

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adaline · 04/06/2019 20:06

I know the difference. I didn’t think there had been any sort of big argument. He was late.

Can you not remember what it was like to be 12 and full of hormones? I remember blowing arguments out of all proportion, getting pissed off over the most pointless things and bursting into tears at the drop of a hat.

Of course to a grown adult it's just a teenage strop, but in his head it was probably something much bigger.

herculepoirot2 · 04/06/2019 20:07

Adeline

Yes. I still needed to learn that my instinctive responses were the wrong ones.

sunshine11 · 04/06/2019 20:07

He's 12. He still needs parenting. He's hitting puberty and getting up becomes harder at that age.

Locking him out? Great form mama way to go. How does that show you care about him? Sounds like you were annoyed he was late, felt it wasn't your fault and he needed to be taught a lesson. Nice. Bullying behaviour.

What about a little love and compassion? What does he need to enable him to get up and out on time? Surely you realise this part is your job as a parent?

Rachelle11 · 04/06/2019 20:07

Oh man this kid has way too much to deal with. He has moved homes and it sounds like he is pretty low on the priority list. On top of which his Dad has health problems that he feels responsible for. Given your younger two live in a home with their mother and father and do not have the upheaval your son has had and is still going through, I think you have your priorities backwards.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 04/06/2019 20:12

Wow, OP, it really is basic parenting to have a handle on where each of your children are up to with their morning routine at any point and chivvy them along if they aren’t eating breakfast/brushing their teeth/whatever by the usual time you’d see them doing that. Teens need this just as much as younger ones (more so, in the case of getting up!). This is not mollycoddling, this is being a responsible parent and making sure your child leaves the house on time to catch the bus they need to.

Mollycoddling at that age would be setting their alarm clock for them every night, setting out their uniform for them each night, taking them their breakfast in bed, packing their school bags/PE bags for them, standing over them while they ate breakfast/brushed teeth, driven them to school each day and picked them up again even if you don’t need to etc etc. Totally unnecessary in a child without SEN and very damaging to their self-confidence.

The absolute priority for parents in a morning is making sure their child gets out of the house at the time they need to. That is YOUR responsibility as he is the child and YOU are the parent with legal responsibility for ensuring he does so. It isn’t right or OK to forget about him in the morning rush of a busy home life, not even with multiple siblings. It’s not ok to not prioritise him as well as your younger children. Apart from anything else it will be damaging to his self-esteem to know that he comes way down your list of priorities. I always wave mine off at the door, and know that I’ve done my job - they are out the house on time.

Just because a 12 year old is capable of something doesn’t mean they should be routinely doing that thing and sod any time they don’t manage to do that. Eg My 12 year old could make his own basic evening meal if he hAd to, (so if DH was away and I was very unwell it would be fine) but I wouldn’t eg choose not to make him something if I wasn’t hungry myself just because he CAN do it. Same with keeping himself clean. He can do the cleaning part, but it doesn’t mean to say that I should leave him to it and remember when to have a bath/shower. Teenage boys are known for being soap dodgers, part of parenting is to give them a nudge regularly to have a bath or shower. Or switch his light off by 10pm latest. Once these routines are ingrained in their psyche they shouldn’t have problems continuing with them naturally once they’ve reached young adulthood. Till then we are effectively their “coach”, teaching them how to have good routines as an adult. Look how birds and animals do it. They are close by, checking that their offspring ARE catching that worm or managing to get their share of the antelope. You, OP, need to be the mummy bird standing near checking your DS is doing what he needs to be doing at the time he needs to be doing it. Not forgetting about him completely, expecting him to get on with all of it on his own. Otherwise he’s just a lodger in your house.

And I agree with others that kindness towards each other in a family goes a long way. If for some reason MY alarm didn’t go off but the kids ignored the fact I wasn’t up and went on their merry way to school, making me late for work I would be kicking myself that I hadn’t raised such inconsiderate and selfish children.

It’s just looking out for each other, and you need to start doing it to your little boy. At 12 they generally ARE still little boys. And I work in a boys secondary school so see a whole RANGE of boys and and parenting styles from mollycoddling to neglect. I would be raising an eyebrow if a 12 year old child told me they had to get themselves up every morning even though their parent was around at home. It would cause me to look out for other signs of possible neglect to be honest eg scruffy/dirty uniform, regularly not having money for bus or lunch, not equipped for lessons, not turning up to school and parents not calling school with a reason for absence etc (You come under this last one....)

AnotherEmma · 04/06/2019 20:13

"And we will be ferrying him around for his sport 3 evenings this week (think 90min round trips at 8.3pm) for which he shows no gratitude. We can't ditch it as we've agreed to take a friend"

Take his friend and not him.
Find your backbone somewhere.
Locking a 12yo out of the house is not it!

adaline · 04/06/2019 20:14

Yes. I still needed to learn that my instinctive responses were the wrong ones.

Of course. But there's room for empathy too. You don't seem to have any towards a kid who is clearly going through a pretty shit time at home.

BlueJava · 04/06/2019 20:14

I have to say I feel sorry for your 12 yo DS. You talk about focussing on your 1 yo and 7 yo in the mornings but I think your 12 yo is still a child too. Does he feel a bit left out, is he looking for a bit of loving attention? Perhaps he felt tired out after doing after-school activities. Perhaps you will think I spoil mine (2 DS, both 17) I take them as often as I can even though it's not far. They aren't at home forever and parent/son time is important. If I drop them off or pick them up it shows I care and have time for them and want to be with them. Absolutely no way would I lock them outside and drive off - I think that's awful. If he goes off and meets other kids also bunking off he would get in a bit of a downward spiral which you really don't want!

herculepoirot2 · 04/06/2019 20:23

adaline

I do. Lots of the information the OP has now given us wasn’t there at the start. It sheds new light on the dynamic. But in my house, this behaviour wouldn’t fly.

kaytee87 · 04/06/2019 20:23

If your ds is out until 9.30pm 3 times a week at activities then he's probably too tired to get up before 7am. At that age they need 9/10 hours sleep a night.

adaline · 04/06/2019 20:27

But in my house, this behaviour wouldn’t fly.

I don't think anyone has said it would. You seem to be arguing with people who fundamentally agree with you, they're just slightly more understanding/empathetic with the child in question.

You can be disappointed in the behaviour and empathic about his feelings at the same time.

pikapikachu · 04/06/2019 20:29

I am guilty of leaving him to it too often, the baby demands my attention and I don't do enough to share it. Add to that DS is 6ft2 and we've always been guilty of treating him as though he's older than he is.

Think you've nailed it OP. He probably lied because he thought you'd be too preoccupied to notice.

I would tell him that you wanted a fresh start tomorrow and to check that he was up by 6:45? He should be able to do it most days but teens are notorious night owls who sometimes need support.

herculepoirot2 · 04/06/2019 20:32

adaline

I am empathetic. Understanding his behaviour isn’t particularly connected to the fact that it needs to stop.

diddl · 04/06/2019 20:33

It does sound as if he has a lot going on.

But he wasn't locked out of the house as he didn't need to be in it-he should have been getting his arse to school.

Certainlyit sounds as if mornings need to change, but he is responsible for the decision to not go to school.

If activities make him too tired to get up when he needs to, then the activities need to stop.

EvaHarknessRose · 04/06/2019 20:44

Hope you get on the course OP, it can’t hurt. Remember the teenage brain rewires so they get less capable before they regrow more synapses. And they have different circadian rhythm so getting up is difficult.

Drogosnextwife · 04/06/2019 20:45

Well the school are probably being kind and offering him a lunchtime detention because they don't really want to punish him but have to for bunking off, they won't be blaming him.

I honestly can't believe you locked the door and got in the car with your other 2 kids and fucked off. You didn't even need to go out your way, you just said yourself you considered dropping him at your younger child's school (which I'm guessing is closer to his school than your house), but you were being petty and drive off and left him.

Drogosnextwife · 04/06/2019 20:50

Oh man this kid has way too much to deal with. He has moved homes and it sounds like he is pretty low on the priority list. On top of which his Dad has health problems that he feels responsible for. Given your younger two live in a home with their mother and father and do not have the upheaval your son has had and is still going through, I think you have your priorities backwards.

And even the OP knowing all this, still has him at the bottom of her priorities. No wonder he was difiant and bunked off, I would have probably done the same.

freshstartnewme · 04/06/2019 20:54

This is the kind of 'parenting' that leads to all the threads about teens who don't give a fuck. You know the rude ones who just do what they want, it all starts somewhere...

RedSkyLastNight · 04/06/2019 20:59

Is the time spent ferrying to sports also due to your house move and you used to be much closer?

Is it time to revisit whether it might actually make sense to move to a closer school (and closer activities?)

BarrenFieldofFucks · 04/06/2019 21:08

You are meant to be a team. How could you drive off and leave him? Especially when he could have come with you to the other child's school?

Nottheduchess · 04/06/2019 21:40

Ok OP, you really need to build bridges but also make him understand that bunking off school is not the answer either. Apologies are needed from both sides. He needs you, as much as he did when he was under 4ft! He’s not even a teenager yet, love him.

MitziK · 04/06/2019 22:44

He's 12 years old. He will be getting the punishments for truanting (or being late). His mum did all she could to ensure he got to school, bar physically picking him up and hurling him out the door - which a kid could then claim to be physical abuse - when she needed to be somewhere else with a child who isn't responsible for their own actions/timekeeping.

It's only three miles. Anybody not disabled at 12 years old is capable of walking that - or catching a later bus and sucking up the consequences.

The school will have no sympathy for him. Because it's his fault, not OP's.

GreigLaidlawsbarofsoap · 04/06/2019 22:49

Reading your updates, I feel very sorry for your 12 year old CHILD. He's not even a teenager yet, fgs.

I have a 13 year old. I cannot ever imagine not making sure he was getting up, then locking the door, leaving him when I could have helped him (at least a bit, take him to younger child's school etc) and not checking he was ok for hours. It's just horrible. He must feel so unloved, uncared for. I know babies are demanding but you're HIS parent too, and he needs your help and guidance, not your rejection.

RedSkyLastNight · 04/06/2019 22:52

The school will have no sympathy for him. Because it's his fault, not OP's.
Actually I think (hope) most secondary schools would be quite interested as to why a normally good student decided to bunk off. Interesting that OP hasn't said why he chose not to go in either. As most have said, he would be an annoyed at walking 3 miles, but it would be doable. Or he could have waited for the next bus.

And legally, it is the OP's responsibility to make sure he attends school.

MaybeDoctor · 04/06/2019 22:58

I find it bizarre that adults often expect children to do things that they wouldn’t want to do themselves.

An hour’s walk, under time pressure and without warning, at 7.30am?