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To ask why aibu is so anti-trans?

712 replies

BinkyBaa · 04/06/2019 02:51

Just that really. I don't mean to be goady I've just noticed that when it comes up here, people seem more against it than other social circles I'm familiar with. I think I'm a bit out of the loop as to what the issue is.

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over50andfab · 08/06/2019 14:22

This is why I said “traditional” dress as I knew some of you would then make the comments you did. Not being sexist at all.

My traditional dress is jeans/joggers and fleece plus no make up during the day, but I enjoy putting on makeup and a frock on when going out. As a rule, though some do, men don’t wear dresses or make up. I am very much generalising here, but trying to make the distinction in answer to your questions.

Pisspotical · 08/06/2019 14:23

Why isn't it acceptable for an individual to be "anti" something?
Who writes these rules, and states that we as individuals should comply to certain trains of thought?
People should be free to think as they deem acceptable, without the interrogation and scrutiny of the Orwellian "Thought Police" presiding over our every action or comment.

LimeKiwi · 08/06/2019 14:24

Iamalways - you're missing my point though.
Living as a woman - you automatically bring it round to looks.
Yes, it's looks in that sense so the body matches up more with the inner self.
It's clearly not just a looks thing, looks is just a part of it.
Not the be all and end all. Like the biology bit.
There's clearly more to it than looks and whether you have a foof or not lol

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 08/06/2019 14:24

"My traditional dress is jeans/joggers and fleece plus no make up during the day"

So you're saying you're a man then? since you wear traditionally masculine clothes?

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 08/06/2019 14:25

lime I won't be responding to you as you don't seem to have any coherent thought process or ability to follow a thread.

LimeKiwi · 08/06/2019 14:26

Don't then, as. I said nobody wants to accept anything else.

LimeKiwi · 08/06/2019 14:27

Accept there could be anything else that should say

over50andfab · 08/06/2019 14:28

Men with autogynephilia? Generally late transitioners, who are married, attracted to women, retain their penis.

@Datun interesting, I shall learn more about it - thank you.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/06/2019 14:28

What else is there other than biology that all women have in common lime?

Lipstick?

LimeKiwi · 08/06/2019 14:30

Yes.
OK then.
It all comes down to your foof
Or whether you're wearing lipstick or not.
FFS lol
It's pointless saying anything else.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/06/2019 14:31

I'm asking as I'm male lime

I want you to tell me what all women have in common.

over50andfab · 08/06/2019 14:32

On another thread someone posted a link to an article where a transwoman gave reasons for why they 'felt like' a woman. One of them was they wanted to be cute and shy and to blush when a man kissed them. Another was they wanted to giggle.

I find that quite sweet actually - each to their own

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/06/2019 14:32

Right now it seems to be wears a dress or is female.

Is this the marker you use?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/06/2019 14:34

Because men clearly can't blush or giggle.

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 08/06/2019 14:34

Ds2 giggles like a deranged chipmunk

Is giggling a female thing?

Fairenuff · 08/06/2019 14:34

"They 're fucked up if they think like this" is a bit of a sweeping generalisation from one person saying it!

I was using the singular 'they'. As I did throughout that post.

over50andfab · 08/06/2019 14:34

I want you to tell me what all women have in common.

Now if this was on the FWR boards that would be called male entitlement to demand an answer.

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 08/06/2019 14:34

over50 you think it's sweet that someone's idea of womanhood is that we blush and giggle? That's what we represent to them? You don't find that a harmful stereotype at all?

Is there a reason men can't blush and giggle? They can and do, surely. I've seen it.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/06/2019 14:35

Now if this was on the FWR boards that would be called male entitlement to demand an answer.

Yes but it isn't on that board. So feel free to answer.

Ereshkigal · 08/06/2019 14:36

Who asked the women using the pond if they had issues?

When they were asked, the City of London ignored all the responses from people who do have issues.

This.

Fairenuff · 08/06/2019 14:37

I want you to tell me what all women have in common

They can't because they would have to exclude transwomen which would make the transphobic.

over50andfab · 08/06/2019 14:39

*My traditional dress is jeans/joggers and fleece plus no make up during the day"

So you're saying you're a man then? since you wear traditionally masculine clothes?*

Iamalways, please read my post - all of it

IAmAlwaysLikeThis · 08/06/2019 14:40

over50 I did. Are you perhaps, then, non binary, since sometimes you wear make up?

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 08/06/2019 14:41

They can't

But to be so sure they are women, surely they must be able to define it?

Otherwise it's nonsense.....

Fairenuff · 08/06/2019 14:42

I find that quite sweet actually - each to their own

It's fine for them to want to blush and giggle.

But why do they think that feeling like that makes them a woman?

That's like me saying want to fart and scratch my fanny so I must be a man.

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