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Using a unisex toilet for the first time.

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unisexloo · 30/05/2019 22:16

We took DD to sea life and when we went to the toilet to my surprise there was 1 and it was unisex!! Poor DH walked round the corner looking for the mens 😂

Thought I would share dh & I experience! Very strange doing a wee next door to DH, and the other lady in there looked VERY uncomfortable! DH got in & out as quick as possible and hated being in there with another woman said he would rather pee himself than go in there alone without me...

Obviously I cant comment very much as there was no other men in there but the thought of being along with a man in the toilets REALLY freaked me out for some reason, not to mention the cubicle I walked into had the seat UP, toilet paper on the floor as well as what I can only assume was P*SS 🤢 had to tell DD NOT to touch the walls as it smelled of urine also...

Anybody else had any experiences yet in a unisex loo? Safe to say I complained on my way out, I can deal with unisex toilets if I HAVE to when DH is around what I cant deal with is standing in a mans urine and having to wipe it of the seat ! Barf.....

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Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 31/05/2019 13:36

Honestly don’t see what the fuss is about so long as they are proper shared spaces

What do you mean by proper shared spaces...please and thank you Smile

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AnActualWoman · 31/05/2019 13:39

You know, I only think I've come across a unisex toilet a handful of times, and they have been in the sort of places where I'd absolutely expect to see them (horrible, dingy, utter dives of places that I think were supposed to be ironic as the people I was with assured me they were hip, happening THE places to be and drinks cost about £15 for a cocktail)

I used to be oh-so-cool-it-hurt too, could never understand why some girls were sensitive, were weird about talking about periods and stuff in front of boys and so on.

Then I stopped being an absolute arsehole and realised that just because I was ok with it didn't mean others needed to be. I grew up and out of my selfish "but I'm alright jack" bubble.

It might have been the rape that did it. Or maybe it was when I was assaulted at knifepoint in a train station toilet. Or maybe I did just realise I was being an immature airhead. Who knows.

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 13:41

But equally, I get to follow men in no?

'Get to' expose themselves? What normal men actually see this as a treat? I was once flashed in a bus stop... should they be separate too? 🙄

All I get from your posts is that you're of the view that women are weak and need to be kept separate. I'd rather bring my daughter up to be capable of dealing with whatever life throws at her, male or female

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 13:45

Yes cos it's all about attitude.

Not the fact that they are physically stronger and responsible for 96+ percent of all sexual assaults on women.

So maybe providing extra opportunities for them to gain access to women in a vulnerable state . Ie possibly alone in a poorly lit area, cubicles they can be dragged into , and no ability to question why they are there, is not the best idea

EnormousDormouse · 31/05/2019 13:57

It's also terrible for those whose faith/culture means that they must not be alone with unrelated men.
That faith/culture is not going to change; so these women will be unable to use public loos. And the thought of excluding women from public spaces is horrifying to me.

(Sometimes I am very glad I live in a Muslim country as there's none of this unisex shit going on.)

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 14:11

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not prepared to live in fear of men and can't subscribe to the 'all men are a threat' mentality

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 14:17

I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I'm not prepared to live in fear of men and can't subscribe to the 'all men are a threat' mentality

It's not about having any kind of mentality.

And you can think what you like about me I dont really care. But as a pp has already stated. This, is just the tip of the iceberg.
It may seem harmless to you. Not to os all part of a bigger picture that I would urge you to look at even if you dont admit to

We have lost toilets, ponds, girlguides, the police are now on record on a recording saying a Male bodied woman may well turn up to interview a rape victim, hospital wards are no longer single sex, and so so so much more. Women are losing their sex based rights at the speed of light here and it started with toilets....

Alsohuman · 31/05/2019 14:28

Hospital wards have rarely been single sex, bays are and the NHS standard is for them to be. There have been some absolute horror stories on here about maternity wards now that fathers are given unrestricted access to them. Nobody seems to care about the privacy and dignity of women there. That definitely didn’t start with toilets.

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 14:33

Ponds? Hmm

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 14:34

Are you unfamiliar with the hampstead heath ponds wishy?

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 14:38

All the ponds I'm familiar with are for ducks. Male and female ones

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 14:48

Prime example of how catering for everyone is not enough for men. If there was any doubt that MRAs are about boundary violation not inclusivity the hampstead heath pond story explains it all.

Three ponds

Men
Women
Mixed.

Guess which one was targeted and made mixed sex..

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 14:55

After a quick google I'm guessing the women's but it's not become mixed sex has it? Just open to trans women who technically identify as women don't they? I couldn't see anything about it opening up to men

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 14:55

While we are busy NOT all Men-ing

Busy being oh so cool with everything being mixed.

Busy refusing to see any problems with anything.

This is what the MRAs are doing behind our backs to thank us for our faith in men as a sex class...

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 14:56
Hmm
feelingverylazytoday · 31/05/2019 15:06

Just open to trans women who technically identify as women
So men, in other words. Or are you going to pretend that saying the words 'I identify as a woman' magically turns a man into a woman? Well believe that if you want but it has no factual basis.

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 15:09

@SarahTancredi so with the pond thing, are women who have transitioned to men and identify as male allowed to bathe in the male pond?

feelingverylazytoday · 31/05/2019 15:11

Wishy how does a woman 'transition' to a man, or vice versa?

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 15:13

Well when Man Friday ran a protest swim identifying as men for a day the police were called.

The men didn't take to it kindly.

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 15:15

@feelingverylazytoday no I wouldn't at all. I'm personally of the view that if you're born with a cock you're a bloke but I'll probably get flamed for that too 😂
I was just trying to look objectively at the reasoning behind the decision.

AnActualWoman · 31/05/2019 15:18

"After a quick google I'm guessing the women's but it's not become mixed sex has it? Just open to trans women who technically identify as women don't they? I couldn't see anything about it opening up to men"

If it's opened up to trans women it has literally become the very definition of mixed sex.

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 15:20

@feelingverylazytoday chop bits off or stick bits on I assume? I've no idea what actually qualifies as a man or a woman officially anymore. I'd look at it like I'd tell the sex of a guinea pig but I'm guessing there's more to it than that with humans as we're the most ridiculous species going
Don't see the ducks having these arguments ...

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 15:26

If it's opened up to trans women it has literally become the very definition of mixed sex.

Perhaps I'm getting this wrong. Does a trans woman still have a dick?

AnActualWoman · 31/05/2019 15:33

Sometimes they have a so called "female penis" yes. Sometimes they have it removed and replaced with parts of their body and designed to try and look like a vagina/vulva

Transwomen are always and factually and scientifically male sexed.

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