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Using a unisex toilet for the first time.

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unisexloo · 30/05/2019 22:16

We took DD to sea life and when we went to the toilet to my surprise there was 1 and it was unisex!! Poor DH walked round the corner looking for the mens 😂

Thought I would share dh & I experience! Very strange doing a wee next door to DH, and the other lady in there looked VERY uncomfortable! DH got in & out as quick as possible and hated being in there with another woman said he would rather pee himself than go in there alone without me...

Obviously I cant comment very much as there was no other men in there but the thought of being along with a man in the toilets REALLY freaked me out for some reason, not to mention the cubicle I walked into had the seat UP, toilet paper on the floor as well as what I can only assume was P*SS 🤢 had to tell DD NOT to touch the walls as it smelled of urine also...

Anybody else had any experiences yet in a unisex loo? Safe to say I complained on my way out, I can deal with unisex toilets if I HAVE to when DH is around what I cant deal with is standing in a mans urine and having to wipe it of the seat ! Barf.....

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SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 11:55

Because when shes trying to deal with this its hard enough as it is without men or boys from her school being there on top.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3598546-Toilets-again-desire-for-privacy-is-transphobic-apparently

This thread may be of interest here too.

How all the so called perks and increase safety cos we have big tough men around to protect us Hmm well you have all been sold a lie. All it does is spoilt their fun.

Would you be happy if this actually takes hold?

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 11:56

@Eliza9919 we're the same species aren't we?

Alsohuman · 31/05/2019 12:00

I wish there were more of them. Perhaps I’d spend less time in a queue that moves at the speed of a striking sloth with my legs crossed. Wtf do people do in there that takes so bloody long?

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 12:02

With different bodies, needs and experiences that require different services.

And that's ok. Whys it a problem.

It's funny how all this only came about when we started saying no. Fuck this shit.

Now they have found a way to make sure we all piss off back to the home like good little girls.

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 12:17

@SarahTancredi high school girls are the worst for being bitchy/ shaming for this kind of thing. Yes it's shit, but a separate issue altogether IMO

You lost me with the second article and the part about having big tough men around to protect us Confused
What are you asking if I'd be happy about? Full length doors or CCTV?

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 12:27

*With different bodies, needs and experiences that require different services.

And that's ok. Whys it a problem.

It's funny how all this only came about when we started saying no. Fuck this shit.

Now they have found a way to make sure we all piss off back to the home like good little girls.*

Eh? Who's pissing off home? And why?
It's not a problem that we have different bodies but why the hell does it matter whether it's Nigel or Nigela in the cubicle next door while you're sorting yourself out?
Why do we all care who the fuck is doing what and where and realise that nobody really gives a toss, we're all just doing our own thing and it really doesn't bloody matter what anyone, male or female thinks about it.

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 12:31

It was a reference to a Pps idea that it apparently males women feel safer to have men around.

Unisex toilets dont benefit anyone besides men. It may not bother some women but it doesnt benefit them in any way long term.

But men, men it benefits. Let's not do their work for them hey. If they cared about trans people at all they would he campaigning to prevent Male violence and trying to make their spaces safer so transpeopl could use them without incident ( which they largely do yet will deny as it siens benefit them to admit that) but no, they haven't have they.the have teamed up with the cause and bullied companies onto providing unisex spaces instead as the have realised they get to be in enclosed spaces with women that way.

Classic "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" because they hate us. They hate us having anywhere to go or anything to do without them.

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 12:34

Amd of course it will Male people stay at home. Anyone who's religion means the cant use toilets with men. Teenagers who have no where to hide from the boys who harass them at school. Women who dint feel able to share with men die to avise or trauma

And anyone with a medical co edition that leaves them more vulnerable.

IDrinkAndISewThings · 31/05/2019 12:41

Hmm, I was about to say that my gym has unisex changing rooms (individual cubicles obviously) so I don't see the difference, but then I realised that even thought the changing rooms are unisex the toilets IN those changing rooms are segregated into ladies / gents, so even the designers feel there is a difference.
I genuinely don't know how I feel about this, for myself, my husband or my children (ds and ds, both young enough to need accompaniment)
I feel like I don't care, that I could happily use unisex facilities, then people on here start telling me I'm more likely to be pushed into a cubicle and raped...?
From a security point of view then surely it's better that the doors don't run floor to ceiling? Weighing up the likelihood of someone watching you with a mirror on a stick against the benefit of someone being able to see two pairs of feet in an assault situation... I suppose it all comes down to how secure you feel in public spaces, and that like all public loos, some will be better designed than others

ArabellaDoreenFig · 31/05/2019 12:41

Ok so I’m going to be lazy and copy my post from the other thread, but this is why mixed sex facilities are a problem, and why women who are calmly waving away women’s rights to single sex provisions need to think about the bigger picture :

WOMENS BOUNDARIES ARE BEING ERODED.

Bit by bit the fuckers (MRAs) are trying to push back and remove every single sex-based right which women have - go and have a look at the FWR board and see what’s happening- womens rights to their bodily autonomy, women’s rights to fair pay and treatment at work, womens rights to be safe in the workplace, safe in hospital, safe in public places, womens rights to say ‘no’ are being pushed and pushed back. And it all starts with things like gender neutral toilets. Boiling frog syndrome.

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 12:48

Ok so I’m going to be lazy and copy my post from the other thread, but this is why mixed sex facilities are a problem, and why women who are calmly waving away women’s rights to single sex provisions need to think about the bigger picture

Hear hear

I'm.expecting the poster to come back and tell us we are paranoid man haters and we are being ridiculous and girls do X too.

But they need to ask themselves this.

Why are men not campaigning for men only swim/gym sessions. They are complaining and getting the womens only shut down instead

Why are they not building and funding and campaigning for their own refuges. They get people to withdraw funding from womens ones instead fir not admitting make bodied people.

Why are they not having their own marches for things. Merely complaining and forcing womens ones to become mixed sex

If they cared about the treatment of trans people or men at all they would be doing someynjnh about it. Instead they persecute women for not doing enough...

Wheres their contribution ?

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 12:49

, they haven't have they.the have teamed up with the cause and bullied companies onto providing unisex spaces instead as the have realised they get to be in enclosed spaces with women that way.

Wow 😮

'They' being who exactly? Who the chuff would want to be in an enclosed space with me while I take a dump?
Your latest posts are full of man hate and seem to have a warped view of women and their capabilities.

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 12:54

And There we have it..

ArabellaDoreenFig · 31/05/2019 12:57

SarahTancredi

Right on schedule!

wishywashy6 · 31/05/2019 12:59

And There we have it..

Yup....

Im not going to apologise for disagreeing with you

RottnestFerry · 31/05/2019 13:02

Unisex toilets dont benefit anyone besides men

Can you please explain what benefit I get out of unisex toilets?

If they had urinals in them, you might have a point.

BlackPrism · 31/05/2019 13:04

I wouldn't mind but they're always covered in piss. My uni ones were unisex but like enclosed cubicles in a hallway with interior sinks and they were fine.

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 13:07

Because they get to follow women in,

Because it allows then to expose themselves by leaving the door open.

Because it allows them easing unquestioned access to the cubicle next door for filming.

It gives those who have their fetishes fir used sanitary products access to the bin.

And to be honest it also gives some the chance to act like some knight In shining armour "rescuing" some girl or woman from a creeo.

Of course the real rescue action woyod come from men joining the fight to save single sex spaces. Except they arent really are they

It may not be all men. But it is all women who have suffered at some point, from comments yelled out van windows to rape at the hands of men.

AllPizzasGreatAndSmall · 31/05/2019 13:10

especially when the only single use toilet in the facility is locked and you need to 'look' disabled to use it

No you don't - you need to BE disabled.

RottnestFerry · 31/05/2019 13:12

Is misandry as contemptible as misogyny?

wannabebetter · 31/05/2019 13:16

@RottnestFerry For a start, it reduces the opportunities for young boys going to learn the essential urinal etiquette while they are still young enough for mistakes to be tolerated.

What is urinal etiquette?? (misses point of thread...…)

RottnestFerry · 31/05/2019 13:22

What is urinal etiquette??

Essentially, deciding which one is the most appropriate to use when one or more are already in use. The problem increases in complexity as more urinals and men are involved. Unless, of course, all but one are in use when the decision is easy.

Plenty of examples on Google.

SarahTancredi · 31/05/2019 13:23

I'm.sorry Rott
Are you saying that what I have said is wrong ? Which part?
No man has ever rifled through a sanitary bin?

That men dont film women in mixed sex toilets?

That men are not campaigning for their own spaces merely shutting ours down?

Or does this just make men look.bad so I am a misanderist for pointing it out?

Hopeygoflightly · 31/05/2019 13:26

Have been using unisex toilets for the last 30 years with absolutely no incident. Worked in a building with 2 loos which both men and women used. They’re fairly common in LGBT venues. Honestly don’t see what the fuss is about so long as they are proper shared spaces -

Alsohuman · 31/05/2019 13:35

Does it matter if someone “rifles through a sanitary bin”? Seriously? This is getting beyond ridiculous.

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