Using a unisex toilet for the first time.

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We took DD to sea life and when we went to the toilet to my surprise there was 1 and it was unisex!! Poor DH walked round the corner looking for the mens 😂

Thought I would share dh & I experience! Very strange doing a wee next door to DH, and the other lady in there looked VERY uncomfortable! DH got in & out as quick as possible and hated being in there with another woman said he would rather pee himself than go in there alone without me...

Obviously I cant comment very much as there was no other men in there but the thought of being along with a man in the toilets REALLY freaked me out for some reason, not to mention the cubicle I walked into had the seat UP, toilet paper on the floor as well as what I can only assume was P*SS 🤢 had to tell DD NOT to touch the walls as it smelled of urine also...

Anybody else had any experiences yet in a unisex loo? Safe to say I complained on my way out, I can deal with unisex toilets if I HAVE to when DH is around what I cant deal with is standing in a mans urine and having to wipe it of the seat ! Barf.....

www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjrtbXav8XiAhWHBGMBHYk6D08QzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Flife-style%2Fwomen%2Fsexual-assault-unisex-changing-rooms-sunday-times-women-risk-a8519086.html&psig=AOvVaw2YFbg8weev-7FmZnF6KF_D&ust=1559382787941972

"Of 134 complaints over 2017-2018, 120 reported incidents took place in gender-neutral changing rooms and just 14 were in single-sex changing areas."

I'm a woman. Nothing I need to perform in a public toilet is hindered by the presence of another human, whether it has a dick or not.

Of course no, not all women lie and are hysterical. Just like all men are not rapey, perverted toilet dwellers incapable of putting a seat down or hitting the target.

I'm sure a lot of men aren't happy about this either. They are used to pissing into urinals - now they have to try to aim more accurately.
Converting toilets into unisex ones is a stupid solution to a non existent problem.
PPs saying you have unisex toilets at home so what's the problem - do your menfolk leave piss on the floor?

I dont like unisex toilets. Firstly it takes away a level of safeguarding. If a man is a womans single sex toilet, unless by accident which is easily resolved, its usually for nefarious reasons. Taking away that level of safeguarding legitimises those nefarious reasons imo. As a woman i couldnt and wouldnt confront any man that i perceived to be acting shady or not in a unisex toilet, as he has a right to be there. It would be like telling women who feel unsafe walking alone with a strange man behind her to ignore her feelings of unease and that actually those feelings of unease were wrong. That man has a right to walk behind her (which tbh he does, but all the decent men i know would never walk behind a lone women, in fact some have mentioned that they specifically cross the street or go slow to alleviate any fears that women may have, because you know, these men are decent and dont want to cause any undue distress). Secondly it changes the atmosphere and use of toilets for women. I have been asked countless times if I have a spare tampax in public toilets. I dont think there are many women who would ask that in the earshot of strange men. I dont think i would even use the tampax machine in the visual line of strange men. I certainly wouldnt touch up my make up in front of strange men (although I would in front of strange women). Of course none of these changes affect men though so I guess they can be written off.

@SarahAndQuack Thu 30-May-19 23:02:50
Oh, and all of this stuff about men don't want to see period blood and women don't want to see wee ... erm, no, but nor does anyone.

Let's not pretend women have a natural affinity with period blood.

If all toilets were lockable, individual cubicles with hand basins, we'd not be having these ridiculous 'look at me, ooh, I'll pretend this perfectly normal scenario is a huge issue' responses.

It' not a normal scenario though. And it shouldn't become one. What if you've had a flood and need to take your skirt or trousers off to rinse them in the sink and dry under the dryer? How can you do that if men are coming in and out?

Nothing you need to perform washy

That's ok then

Perhaps post partum women, kids about to start their period, those suffering miscarriages or pregnancy hemorrhages, those hiding from dodgy dates, those who rely on women to not drug their drinks when they bring them into the toilet and leave on the windowsill so it's not left with strangers out in the bar should all just stay at home?

So the men dont feel bad

Why have there been half a dozen threads on this topic in the last 48 hours?

It's always amazes me the amount of women who give the reasons of taking of clothing to wash and dry them, or having bloody hands after changing a tampon. In 35 years I have never seen a half dressed woman in a public toilet and I'd assume if you got blood on your hands you'd wipe them with tissue before leaving the cubicle to wash them properly. If cubicles are floor to ceiling I have no issue with unisex toilets and having had this conversation with friends none of them do either. Some of the women's toilets I've been in have been disgusting, so I don't buy into the whole only men cause a mess theory either.

With all due respect @irnbruforlife I don't know one woman who would give a shit if a man heard her ask for a tampon.
Why the hell does it matter who sees you put make up on?
And surely I can't be the only one who hates the idea of a man crossing the road behind me because he thinks he'd cause undue distress to a poor little defenceless woman like me 🤨

I was sexually assaulted by an older man when I was 16. It was one man, not every man
I was also head butted by a goat when I was 8. I don't hate all goats

I'm sure a lot of men aren't happy about this either. They are used to pissing into urinals - now they have to try to aim more accurately

We aren't happy at all. For a start, it reduces the opportunities for young boys going to learn the essential urinal etiquette while they are still young enough for mistakes to be tolerated.

@Zippy you got there first :D I was about to say I've never once in my life seen anyone half dressed washing/drying their clothes in a public toilet. If I've had a flood I'll wrap my jumper around my waist and get home asap. I wouldn't want to stay out in that condition!

Single sex toilets are dangerous for trans people in general. It's not only the men's that's dangerous for trans men, but also the women's that can be dangerous for trans women.

Unisex toilets has lessened MUCH of that here where I live, AND it's made women feel safer as the presence of men seems to put off any potential predator. After all, what predator is going to risk a large man walking in and beating the crap out of them mid assault?

Unisex toilets are a very normal thing here.

Oh my god no

I have been in plenty of gender neutral toilets but they have all been the single room variety with a loo and their own sink. Or a lockable portaloo.

I have never been in a toilet like the one the OP describes, although our local leisure centre's changing area is unisex with individual cubicles. The loos are still separate though. I think they must still be quite a rarity.

Oh and as for "being too lazy to flush period blood away", it doesn't always flush away!

Our school had staff unisex toilets. I found it exceptionally uncomfortable. Going for a wee was alright I guess but I couldn't do anything else with someone else in the room anyway.

It's uncomfortable.

Perhaps @SarahTancredi we should be teaching young girls not to treat men any differently to they'd treat other women. To not be ashamed of having their period, to not hide from dodgy dates but to have the ability to walk away from them. To not subscribe to this mentality that we are inferior to men and like we are somehow vulnerable just because we aren't a man.
I couldn't care less if the men feel bad or not, I just hate this whole mentality that we have to scamper around hiding from men.

Single sex toilets are dangerous for trans people in general. It's not only the men's that's dangerous for trans men, but also the women's that can be dangerous for trans women

Of all the trans people who have been beaten or killed how many were actually in a public toilet?

Compared to how many actual women who have been filmed, flashed, assaulted etc

Women are not your buffer zones. We dint exist to be used to make the rest of the world behave

I prefer unisex toilets. Far preferable to the situation where women are forming a long queue whilst men are wandering in to what I can only presume is a land of abundance.

I often use a toilet that men have used - at home, in others' homes, in small cafes, on trains, on planes...

And yes, sometimes there are noises and smells and messes that I don't want to share, but that is equally likely to happen in a single sex toilet.

wishy

Girls are missing schools due to period poverty and period shaming.

Are you saying that some poor girl whis parents cant afford protection and has to botch together some makeshift padding out of loo paper or whatever should just learn to not be ashamed about it

@Damntheman Fri 31-May-19 11:24:45
@Zippy you got there first :D I was about to say I've never once in my life seen anyone half dressed washing/drying their clothes in a public toilet.

I have. Just because you haven't, doesn't mean it never happens

@RottnestFerry Fri 31-May-19 11:15:52
I'm sure a lot of men aren't happy about this either. They are used to pissing into urinals - now they have to try to aim more accurately

We aren't happy at all. For a start, it reduces the opportunities for young boys going to learn the essential urinal etiquette while they are still young enough for mistakes to be tolerated.

How do men feel about the increased potential to be wrongly accused of an assault? Do you feel more at risk of this?

@wishywashy6 Fri 31-May-19 11:36:21
Perhaps @SarahTancredi we should be teaching young girls not to treat men any differently to they'd treat other women.

But we aren't the same.

How do men feel about the increased potential to be wrongly accused of an assault? Do you feel more at risk of this?

It's something that, personally, I had not really considered.

Is the risk likely to be any higher than in a dedicated gents loo though?

I thought there was a rule that unisex toilets needed to have floor to ceiling cubicles. It looks like that is just for workplaces though, so customer toilets may have different rules.
www.hse.gov.uk/contact/faqs/toilets.htm
On a separate note, I am female and I do not want to see period blood either, and don't even get me started on tiny cubicles with the sanitary disposal unit wedged in so that your leg touches the bloody lid when you sit on the loo.

Are you saying that some poor girl whis parents cant afford protection and has to botch together some makeshift padding out of loo paper or whatever should just learn to not be ashamed about it*

What's that got to do with unisex toilets? Surely that's an entirely different issue?

The reason that queues in men's toilets are so much less is because they all walk-in, use the urinal, don't wash their hands and then walk out again in less than a minute.

It's nothing to do with cubicles.