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What the hell with colleague

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SalemShadow · 30/05/2019 21:56

We have a colleague who is always instigating work socialising and organising nights out. Prob is she never wants to pay for anything. She never ever buys a drink. She always asks me and my colleagues to get the bogof drinks and she will get the next ones but she never does. She has blagged lunches off colleagues by forgetting her purse app and never paying back. We went out yest and my colleague said she would get the first drink but she needed to get the next ones. She never did. It was awkward as she just sat there with empty glasses. A couple of times she has been on lunch and said she needed a sandwich but forgotten her purse. We went in the sandwich shop once on her request and I'd already eaten a sandwich from home as trying to save money. She looked in her purse she only had some pound coins which she is collecting app. She then proceeded to ask me to pay for her sandwich as she can't spend her coins as collecting. She's asking me and a colleague to come on a few nights out with work in the next few months and trying to convince us to come for a break away. I don't know how to deal with her politely as she won't pay for anything! It's really starting to piss me off. Aibu?

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Ariesgirl1988 · 01/06/2019 20:27

Having read the whole thread I'm shocked that you and your colleagues are still funding this cheeky mare! OP who cares if people think you're a bitch or being catty? After being taken advantage of many times I finally realised what a weight off my shoulders it was to not give a fuck what people think! I wouldn't bother speaking up for colleagues they need to do that themselves. Next time she pulls this stunt a firm No will suffice you don't need to explain any of your finances or make up excuses because its none of her business. If she persists just "I said No" and she will get the msg loud and clear. Be prepared for her to kick off and make a scene to embarass you but stick to I SAID NO! Although to be honest why are you continuing to socialise with this free loader? She clearly isn't a friend and the fact she shamelessly bragged about not having to buy drinks I'd be so tempted to buy myself a treat for lunch and enjoy it whilst she seethes that she can no longer use you like a sodding bank but hey thats just me being the bitch when people take the piss it takes a bitch to beat a bitch 😂.

I stopped going to work do's after realising that I only genuinely liked a handful of my colleagues. There is one particular colleague of mine who is so two faced she never has a nice word to say about anyone, expects everyone else to stay late but always has an excuse as to why she can't stay late and cover and she is the first to go to the boss when she doesn't get her way and snitches that someone refused her 🙄 I've since blocked her from my phone (thats a whole other story) I don't engage in conversation unless it regards work and I point blank said no I'm not going on whatever work do. I hate work nights out anways and thats exactly what I told this colleague when she kept pestering me about why I wasn't going (she made it into a drama) so I said firmly "I'm not going, I don't want to and I don't like work do's anyway" and I walked away and continued my job now when I say no thats it no one pesters me about why 🙄

MummasTheWord · 01/06/2019 20:34

I would point blank refuse and say multiple times she has said she would pay back / buy a round, but never has. She obviously sees you all as mugs and you all just let her continue to let her! I knew someone like this - we’d feel sorry for her as she said she had no money...years later, when she bought her first home in her 20’s with a cash deposit we found out when she got her student grant/then salary as a grad - she’d do a weekly budget and put the rest into a 90 days saving account - so when she said she had no money left and let us pay, she actually had thousands in her savings account! So say no and keep your money, she is totally taking advantage!

MrsC45 · 01/06/2019 22:23

Don't buy rounds, all buy your own separately so she has no chance to tag in and keep saying no and laugh at her when she suggests silly things like she is collecting!

EAIOU · 01/06/2019 22:28

Agree with the rounds suggestions.

Also with the lunch run can one person not collect money/orders and go get the sandwiches and then no-one offer to pay when she says she has no coins and leave her with no lunch to see how long shell keep it up for.

Some people just rip the piss out of everyone.

MissMoan · 01/06/2019 22:36

Write her an IOU for each time she's 'borrowed'.
I suspect she needs to properly understand the meaning of 'borrow'.
I also love the idea of buying a round and nothing for her. You're not being mean when the line has been crossed to such an extent.

LouJJersey · 01/06/2019 22:56

I once challenged a colleague about this. It never happened again. Either someone is genuinely short of money or they’re tight and taking advantage. I abhor that. Anyhow, a blunt word sorted it out... if you don’t everyone just dreads social occasions

WeBuiltThisBuffetOnSausageRoll · 01/06/2019 23:12

Perhaps this person has fallen on hard times or dealing with something you dont know about like being a carer for a parent or similar which is why they are short on money?

Plenty of people are hard up for any number of reasons. Such people don’t tend to keep organising expensive nights out, though. Even the scammers who hang around town centres approaching passers-by and claiming that they don’t have their bus or train fare to get home don’t try asking you for enough money to hire a limo.

IIRC the CF friend ended up having to ring her parents to do a bank transfer so that she could pay her bill!

I don’t know which thread it was originally on, but IIRC, I’m pretty sure she was already something like £250 into an unauthorised overdraft, meaning that any money paid into the account would instantly go against paying that off; hence £260 would need to be paid into her account before she’d be able to access a tenner. I think her parents had to pay something in that region into her account, for the sake of buying a drink or cheap lunch that she’d just assumed she’d be able to grift her –target— friend for, to avoid the café/restaurant quite legitimately calling the police out to their daughter the thief.

I LOVE the tap water idea- so much more subtle –and PA— than refusing a drink outright. She can’t hurl any allegations of ‘unfair’ at you for excluding her from having a drink, as she has a perfectly good drink (would suit me just fine as I always have a soda water anyway Smile) – she would just have been able to have had a more expensive one if she’d had the money to afford one, same as with anything in life.

The ‘saving coins’ excuse is a mighty brazen one, though! It’s just one tiny little step from saying “I prefer it if you spend your money to buy things for me so that I can keep mine for something else."

Like a previous PP, I might keep a non-standard or commemorative 50p or £2, but I do that instead of spending it. If I have to spend it or want something more than I want to keep the coin, it gets spent. Plenty of people find it helpful to budget or save for something (or for charity) by putting by every coin of a particular denomination that they receive instead of spending them.

At no point would it ever enter my head that I could both keep the coin but also have goods to its value by expecting somebody else to use their money on buying it for me.

Canary123 · 02/06/2019 03:21

Why the f is she saving coins?

pollymere · 02/06/2019 09:10

Next time, don't take your purse to the sandwich shop. That way, you can't pay for her sandwich. Just take enough money for yours in a pocket. You also need to agree with colleagues not to buy rounds if she's included. You could try having a drinks kitty instead. Everyone puts in £5/£10 and only those taking part join in. Anyone too skint can buy their own drinks directly (my mates have understood when I've just bought my own diet coke whilst they drink cocktails).

Deadpoet · 02/06/2019 09:51

Cheeky mare. Love all the advice you’re being given.

MummyofTw0 · 02/06/2019 10:36

I would just do rounds with the other people you are out with and suggest she gets her own x

Ticketybootoo · 02/06/2019 11:12

I think you definitely have to stand up to her or disassociate yourself from her and definitely don’t go away with her . I had a friend like this once and myself and another friend went on holiday with her . She avoided paying her share for 5 days - when we asked to settle up for the meals / drinks we had paid for her all holiday she refused and said she wasn’t coming out with us anymore . There had been no warning of this while we were paying ! Needless to say we went out without her for the last 2 nights . When we added it up she owed us about 150 quid and we never got it back !

Ticketybootoo · 02/06/2019 11:13

Another thought- does she have financial problems ? Is she saving coins for slot machines perhaps ?!!

louisvootin · 02/06/2019 11:46

an ex 'friend' of mine asked for a loan of £20 to come on a night out with us. she claimed she was so skint abut really needed a night out as she was feeling depressed i said yeah sure al give it too u when u arrive at said night out...... only for her to turn up at night out with her hair and make up professionally done. then bragging she paid £50 for her hair and make up that day and still asked me if i had that 20quid there for her..
utter cheek of her that was only 1 example of how she conned me hence why she is an exfriend now.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 02/06/2019 13:57

@Ticketybootoo - she has bragged about not paying for a single drink at a previous ‘do’, and she is the one that insists on organising these nights out - I don’t think she’d do either of these if she was genuinely in dire financial straits.

Crankybitch · 02/06/2019 14:38

I wouldn’t do a kitty with her

Even if she put the money in at the start she will order the most expensive drink, neck it so she has to go up and get another, pocket the money she put in from the kitty when she is at the bar.......

I like the suggestion from the other thread - go somewhere - both place your orders then only have the correct money to pay for yours with no cards. She will have to come up with a solution to pay for hers while you say “sorry I have only got the money for mine - why did you order if you knew you had no means to pay” (with the mumsnet head tilt)

GoodbyeRosie · 02/06/2019 14:48

I don't know who I'm most annoyed with..the thief ..not a cf but a thief..who is practically taking money from your purse, or a bunch of spineless fools who are letting this happen when their are several options to do otherwise.

ClaraCluck1985 · 02/06/2019 15:00

As others have said. I'd make a point of letting her know it's her round next time. Then when she pulls a note out, say you're collecting those, and ask her to give them to you.

Happynow001 · 02/06/2019 15:04

You could try having a drinks kitty instead. Everyone puts in £5/£10 and only those taking part join in.
I'm sure she'll find an easy way around this, particularly as people don't call her out on her cheeky behaviour. Eg: "I forgot to bring/lost/had my purse stolen. Do you think you could all just put in a £ or two into the kitty for me or I'll (sad eyes) have to stay with you without eating or drinking/go home?"

justgivemewine · 02/06/2019 15:06

Marking place for monday lunchtime update Grin

Honkycat · 02/06/2019 15:12

I wouldn’t do a kitty or rounds. Tight people never get their round without trying to avoid it anyway.

These days I just announce, I’ll get my own thanks. I don’t drink wine so don’t need to share a bottle and it works out fine (and cheaper and less complicated.)

1CantPickAName · 02/06/2019 17:35

I wouldn’t talk about her with your colleagues, it could be seen as you gossiping, even though they probably all want to point out her cfery! When people start refusing her, she will blame it all on you.

She sounds like a horrible bully, biting your head off for calling her out!!

You should continue to socialise if you enjoy it but make it clear to everyone that you will be buying your own drinks and refuse any offers if drinks.

I can pretty much guarantee that she will tell everybody that YOU are the tight one because you won’t buy rounds anymore!

Just say no if she asks for money or for you to buy her anything and don’t let her shame you into buying things for her. People like this are manipulative and use gaslighting techniques.

And definitely don’t go on holiday with her, who wants to holiday with work colleagues anyway?

Idontwanttotalk · 02/06/2019 21:26

Drinks - speak to your other friends and
just agree to each buy your own.

There is no way I'd have bought the sandwich if she'd only got pound coins and collects them. I'd say 'Wow, that is amazing. So do I. I also collect fivers' (or whatever other money denomination that you have). Then just stay silent. It will be embarrassing but will put the onus on her to say or do something.

Definitely do not go away for a break with her. She'd be a nightmare.

Honeyroar · 02/06/2019 21:39

Id have said "well you can either put your £ coins in your collection and go hungry or you can buy a sandwich, it's up to you!"

Tewsey · 02/06/2019 21:41

I can actually see how this situation arises - this “type” tends to be very cunning so they’ll alternate people to scrounge off, tell lies - it’s pathological, this need to “get one over people”.

I agree strongly with Pps I wouldn’t make a situation out of it or organise anything or you could be accused of bullying etc.

I mean saying on behalf of yourself you won’t pay for something is fine

but if you bring up all the other times and other people (EVEN if it’s true) she could complain - and unless everyone else is prepared to formally back you up it’ll be you looking bad.

Even though you might “think” you’re speaking on behalf of a lot of other people, in my experience it’s generally best to cover your own back as people who’ll “agree with you something needs to be done” will melt away if it turns really nasty.

I’d just stop spending on her with a straight “no I can’t I’m just paying for my own” and refuse to go on nights out etc, detach from her generally.

Go grey rock on this situation, don’t make a big deal about it, stay in and bring your own lunch etc, claim you’re going teetotal or on a moneysaving drive yourself.

This type will probably continue to target others but it’s not your job to play hero and “teach her a lesson” just cover your own back.

If, say three of you decide you want to spontaneously confront her then maybe do it but be VERY careful not to make it seem like it’s an organised thing or you could be up with HR with things escalating if she gets nasty.