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To question whether it is us or our neighbours who are being unreasonable

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ThespianTendencies · 30/05/2019 13:25

DS - 12 is a keen musician. He likes to play piano. He also likes playing on his Xbox. Three times in recent weeks the neighbours have complained about noise. First time was about 945pm and ds was playing piano in the dining room (we are semi detached). The piano is on the wall that does not back onto their dining room wall. He was playing with gusto but I could barely hear him from the lounge so not unreasonably loud imho. The neighbour texted and asked if he could stop as he had to be up at 5am. I told ds to quieten down and he stopped playing and played his guitar instead. This happened again about 2 weeks later when ds was on piano - again it was not late; 10pm, within the reasonable time to be able to play music in your own home I would have thought. Then last night, neighbour texted to ask if ds was Ok as he could hear screaming from upstairs. I said I was sure he was OK as he was on his Xbox playing Fortnight and could I hear him laughing and chatting with his friends online. Again, this was 1030pm so not ludicrously late and I don't think we should be tiptoeing around after 10pm just because our neighbour has to be up at 5am. I did go to ds and told him to quieten down of course, which he did. I totally appreciate that we must be mindful of our neighbours, we have lived side by side for nearly 9 years. I made no comments or complaints when their young baby was crying through the night or when their two girls wake every morning during weekends and holidays alike at 630am. It is family life and having had two children myself, I understand it. I have made sure that ds has quietened down every time but I am not sure that they are being very fair. If it was past 11pm or early hours of the morning then fair enough, but this seems like we are being made to shut up! Your thoughts please.

OP posts:
Phineyj · 30/05/2019 15:51

Clavinova. Headphones. Electric guitar with headphones. No XBox after 9pm (turn router off). Sorted.

FrenchJunebug · 30/05/2019 15:51

The op is never coming back, is she?

Miffymeow · 30/05/2019 15:51

We have young children next door so do our best to not make noise after 8pm within reason (no loud music, no working in the garden with tools etc). We have no children ourselves but I would be very pissed if next door were playing piano / guitar / instruments in general after 9pm. After that it is very unsociable behaviour imo. Their kids scream sometimes after that time but it is not that they are condoning that, it's just kids. Someones baby screaming in the night is not the same as someone letting their kid play piano at 10:30pm. I don't have to get up for work until 7:30am, and have no kids, and I would be really angry.

madcatladyforever · 30/05/2019 15:56

That's ridiculously late, I go to bed at 9pm as I have to get up very early for work.
I'd be incredibly pissed off if the neighbours ruined my evening by making that kind of a row late at night or in the evening. 6 or 7pm is quite late enough.
If that's a school night your son must be knackered all day.
I am a very early riser and never mow my lawn until 10am for those people who don't get up early.
People can't help their babies crying anyway, what are they supposed to do...gaffa tape their mouths?

LittleMustelid · 30/05/2019 15:56

That's far too late to be playing musical instruments. It should stop at 8:30, 9pm at the latest. The sound really carries. My neighbour used to play the guitar at night - it was awful. I feel really sorry for the neighbours.

Comefromaway · 30/05/2019 16:02

it is definately too late

We are a family of musicians. Before we were detached we had 9pm as a cut off time for playing. Even now I have 10pm as a cut off time especially in summer when windows are open.

pocketcucco · 30/05/2019 16:03

I think 9pm is a decent cut off. I go to bed at this time as I get up early and would consider any time after this unreasonably late to be playing instruments / being noisy.

evilharpy · 30/05/2019 16:12

I'm glad I don't live next door to the OP.

ichifanny · 30/05/2019 16:15

10 pm is very inconsiderate for piano playing it’s a completely avoidable thing to not play it . My child goes to bed at 7.30pm I’d be pretty pissed off at someone through the wall playing a musical instrument .

7salmonswimming · 30/05/2019 16:17

Speak to them, and agree a start- and end-time for noise.

FYI babies crying can’t be helped. Piano playing and Fortnite playing can.

FYIx2, I think anything after 9pm and before 8am is unreasonable for optional noise. Babies and toddlers grow up.

Witchofzog · 30/05/2019 16:24

Yawn. I am so sick of threads like this. Poster writes something which is totally unreasonable and then never bothers to come back again. It's arrogant and just boring

icelollycraving · 30/05/2019 16:24

Yabvu. I’m baffled you need to ask.

TheCaddy · 30/05/2019 16:32

She’s not coming back.

She knows she is unreasonable. Of course it’s too bloody late.

Soubriquet · 30/05/2019 16:35

If I lived next door to the OP, I would be blasting music at 5am when I woke up.

“But it’s 5am. Not that early imo. I mean I’m awake so deal with it”

Bet she wouldn’t like it then

ImposterSyndrome101 · 30/05/2019 16:36

I live in a house share with five musicians. Clarinets, guitars, a ukulele, and three keyboards and now a guitar. Rules are no playing till 10 and not after 11. During exams or before assignments are due those times may be altered slightly. Noise is part of life. It's annoying for your neighbour but he has to deal with it. My neighbour who's room and TV backs against mine is deaf and refuses to wear his hearing aids. His TV is on full blast from 6 in the morning which is far more unreasonable than anything else.

Charmatt · 30/05/2019 16:37

Not only is it too late, but the piano sits on the floor, so they will be able to feel the vibrations too!

We moved because our next door neighbours played music so loud you could feel it through the floor and that was in a detached house. 9 pm surely must be the very latest you'd do something that made noise, though personally we would have a cut-off no later than 8 pm.

Noise issues are really violating and make the difference between you enjoying your home and not. I'd hate to live next door to you!

Meowington · 30/05/2019 16:39

I feel sorry for your neighbours!

I’m experiencing this right now and it’s so intrusive! Utterly gutting when you can’t enjoy being in your own home.

redwoodmazza · 30/05/2019 16:39

I would say noise to end at 21:00 - use headphones or similar after that.

Pk37 · 30/05/2019 16:39

That’s super late to be playing something like that, especially as it’s right against their wall .
I’d be bloody annoyed if you were my neighbours

Fink · 30/05/2019 16:40

YABVU, as everyone has already said.

a) 10pm is far too late for such noise. 8.30pm-9pm at the latest.

b) the noise of young children can't be helped. It is not comparable to a 12 year old.

LadyRannaldini · 30/05/2019 16:57

Even if the noise doesn't seem too loud to you, when one is exposed to a noise an insensitivity develops. We once lived next door to a building that printed newspapers 6 days a week, Monday to Saturday, our open bedroom window was in touching distance of their open windows! After a week or so the noise at 3 am didn't wake us but if they didn't print on Monday because it was a Bank Holiday we would wake up at 3 am because of the lack of noise!

LateVictorian · 30/05/2019 16:59

Charmatt

Not only is it too late, but the piano sits on the floor, so they will be able to feel the vibrations too!

Yes I was wondering that as music with base is even louder for the neighbours, as all they hear is the booming/vibrating.. Even if you have the music on low.

Karigan195 · 30/05/2019 17:02

IMHO there should not be loud music past 9pm on normal days. Weekends etc are a little different.

stucknoue · 30/05/2019 17:10

I think 10pm is the cut off on week nights for noise eg piano, loud music, yelling into headsets, but it sounds like your neighbours are a bit sensitive to noise.

MyFamilyAndOtherAnimals1 · 30/05/2019 17:11

Shouldn't a 12 yo be going to bed at 10.30?

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