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To be delighted That Leave Have Lost

734 replies

donotcovertheradiator · 27/05/2019 00:18

I know it looks as if Brexit have won but in every single case, if you add up all the votes secured by the other parties then together they have more votes than Brexit. That means more people want to remain in Europe than Leave.

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NumbersStation · 27/05/2019 02:30

It can hit wee Jimmy Krankie's arse all day long...

She keeps forgetting she lost the independence referendum.

SilverySurfer · 27/05/2019 02:37

Too funny.

All of our MEPs will be redundant when we leave the EU so none of this matters.

IsabellaLinton · 27/05/2019 03:33

Scotland want to stay in the EU. The only way we can manage to do this would be leaving England to its own devices

I wish you would!

LeSquigh · 27/05/2019 04:11

Haha OP - do you realise that you are completely fucking ridiculous?

How many times will people on here try and put a spin on every Brexit related result to try and explain why this means that we are all in favour of Remain?

We have a national referendum, won by Leave.

Tonight there has been a massive victory for the Brexit Party, because most of us still want to leave.

You are really grasping at straws and anyone who believes such nonsense is either stupid or in complete denial.

GreyofSunshine · 27/05/2019 04:53

@LeSquigh

I don't think your spin works either.

If you class the BP, UKIP and Tories as votes for Leave, that comes to 44%. UKIP and Tories together had 51.5% in the last EU elections.

If you don't count the Torries as part of the Leave vote, then Brexit and UKIP together only had just over a third of the votes.

It's Labour's fence sitting that makes it hard to know if more Leavers or Remainers voted this time out.

TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 27/05/2019 05:08

Herein.lies the biggest problem. The Brexit vote is contained in ONE party and remained a have a choice of more than 2. In a general election, we have to come together for a single party if we have any hope in winning against Farage et al.

Warri0rWanted · 27/05/2019 05:15

Farage got the milkshakes, but he got the most votes !
Brexit, still waiting to Brexit....

Dongdingdong · 27/05/2019 05:29

The OP is hilarious Grin

There’s no two ways about it - the results are a clear victory for Leavers/Nigel Farage I’m afraid, and will give the next Tory leader an unbridled mandate for hard Brexit.

We’re screwed.

NoYo · 27/05/2019 05:30

*How many times will people on here try and put a spin on every Brexit related result to try and explain why this means that we are all in favour of Remain?

We have a national referendum, won by Leave.

Tonight there has been a massive victory for the Brexit Party, because most of us still want to leave. *

This, all day long.

QueenOfIce · 27/05/2019 05:33

Older people and racists wanted to leave. many of the first group may now be deceased and the other group shouldn't be allowed a vote.

Wow aren't you a gem. Confused

AlaskanOilBaron · 27/05/2019 05:41

Alistair Campbell was a guest on the BBC and he kept repeating broadly the same thing and he has masses of experience, so no it's not shite thank you very much.

Grin

Remain voters are just so smart!

InTheHeatofLisbon · 27/05/2019 05:41

Scotland want to stay in the EU. The only way we can manage to do this would be leaving England to its own devices. Break up the UK. For some reason we haven't done this yet. But I strongly suspect we will. And soon.

I was wondering when someone would mention Scotland, the one area where the Brexit Party hasn't experienced a landslide!

And two thoroughly predictable cunty comments which apparently go unnoticed.

The UK isn't England. It's probably about to end up being just England and Wales, but it isn't currently. Not that you'd know it.

Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain in 2016. The Indy result was thrown by "guaranteed continued membership of the EU", so I would be very interested to hear the result of a second Indy ref given the change in political circumstances since the first one.

Brexit tears up the GFA, which has a caveat that a reunification referendum can be held if there's enough public appetite for it. Which there appears to be.

bellinisurge · 27/05/2019 05:52

Here's a simple Maths lesson. 3 = 2+1. That's the NW England result. Brexshit Party got 3. LibDem/Green got 3. The other 2 were Labour.
So, not really a stunning sweep for Brexshit.

jemihap · 27/05/2019 05:56

People will have had many and varied reasons for voting for one of the various ''remain'' parties.... there is only one reason people voted for the Brexit Party.

LellyMcKelly · 27/05/2019 05:57

What’s astonishing is that so many voted for a party who’s only policy is to leave the EU. It’s like handing Farage a blank cheque. These people are now on a £78k salary that we are paying for, and they won’t even show up to represent us.

IMessedUpToday · 27/05/2019 05:58

The quiet majority in Scotland do NOT want independence, and I believe they do not want to leave the EU either. Sturgeon can force
as many votes as she likes but she is going to lose. Same as those trying to force a second referendum in the hope we remain. When will people be adult enough and gracious enough to accept that in this instance they lost?

BertrandRussell · 27/05/2019 06:01

The one thing we know for certain is that not a single person who wanted to remain would vote for the Brexit Party, while some leavers would have voted for different parties for a variety of reasons.m So the Brexit vote is a pretty good indicator of the minimum support there still is for Leave.

Surfskatefamily · 27/05/2019 06:03

I think your confused. Leave was already a won certainty. And this vote has made it clear. Even if parties wishing to remain were in power they could not stop brexit

InTheHeatofLisbon · 27/05/2019 06:05

When will people be adult enough and gracious enough to accept that in this instance they lost?

When an independence vote isn't swayed by lies about remaining in the EU.

Better Together used that, repeatedly. It's how they won.

So before you get sneery about being "adult" and "gracious", think on that.

Oh and the results from last night rather disprove your statement about the quiet majority. If you're the majority why the SNP landslide?

bellinisurge · 27/05/2019 06:05

"People will have had many and varied reasons for voting for one of the various ''remain'' parties.... there is only one reason people voted for the Brexit Party."

Not really paying attention are you?

redcarbluecar · 27/05/2019 06:13

Not read everything, but I hate the winners / losers narrative. That sort of playground simplification has contributed to the bitter divisions we’ve seen over the last three years. I get that the MEP elections could be seen as a kind of opinion poll, but that doesn’t make our political situation less complex.
Anyway, if Brexit, as so many claim, will be good for the UK and its people, then there won’t actually be any ‘losers’ in the long run.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 27/05/2019 06:23

Whatever else, the vote share of all the definitely anti-Brexit parties adds up to 40.4%.
The definitely pro Brexit share comes to 34.9%.

Given how drastically both Lab and Con votes have plummeted, and especially given that Lab has been sitting on the fence, it would seem obvious that many of their habitual voters have turned to definite yes or no parties.

Seems particularly obvious in London, where so many staunch Labour areas have turned LibDem.

In my area, usually a toss up between Con and LD, the LD vote has increased by a very large margin, so it would seem that a good many people who'd normally vote Con have turned to LD, and I think it'd be daft to assume that it's down to anything but the B word.

i don't care at all for Alastair Campbell, but I think he's right on this one. Anyone who thinks this election was just a regular MEP selection process, and not an unofficial 2nd referendum, is IMO kidding themselves.

MoggyP · 27/05/2019 06:24

By no stretch have Leave lost.

Labour and Tories are both officially Leave parties at the moment, and the one who has been punished is the one which has failed to deliver Leave.

The in-fighting in the Labour Party has not turned it (yet) from a Leave party to a Remain one. It is utter wishful thinking to see it otherwise.

Interesting Asoturf as thread title though.

Only in the MN echo chamber !

InTheHeatofLisbon · 27/05/2019 06:27

Labour in Scotland appears to have suffered massively, which is a seismic shift from previous decades when Labour were dominant here. It's fairly obvious why the Tories don't traditionally do well here, the shadow of Thatcher still very present.

But I'm very surprised to see Labour do so badly, especially in former heartlands.

howwudufeel · 27/05/2019 06:28

I voted Labour. I also voted Remain in the referendum. However I do think we should leave the EU mainly because the uncertainty is paralysing the UK. I am annoyed that Alastair Campbell has assumed that my vote for Labour is a vote to remain.