To be delighted That Leave Have Lost

[donotcovertheradiator]

I know it looks as if Brexit have won but in every single case, if you add up all the votes secured by the other parties then together they have more votes than Brexit. That means more people want to remain in Europe than Leave.

Shoppingwithmother not just me then

I"t is not split 50-50. Many people who were too young to vote want to remain. My 13 year old is one of those and it his future that will be decided His friends feel the same so more than half want to remain.

Older people and racists wanted to leave. many of the first group may now be deceased and the other group shouldn't be allowed a vote.

The Change Party is spot on. Have a people's Vote. let anyone over 10 vote and barr those aged over 70 and the lady from the Green Party has just now said that the numbers for the remain parties are higher and that Brexit have lost. I suppose she's stupid too...not!"

So basically you want to mold he voting group to what you want so maybe then you won't have any competition in future vote. Let's get rid of the generation that might actually go against you and include those that you think will agree with you (based on your 13 year old son and some of his friends. Don't ever assume that a group a going to vote a certain way. That's what David Cameron did after all wasn't it? He was so convinced that the remain side would win that it's all they prepared for. Shock horror, leave won.

Also remember that only a small minority turned out to vote, we won't know the true feelings of the country if not everyone voted and a few people that you speak to is not representing the whole country.

So who didn't vote and why?

I’ll admit that I didn’t vote. In fact, I’ve never voted in an EU election because I don’t feel they have any bearing on or relevance to my day-to-day life. I wouldn’t even be able to name my MEP and I bet a lot of other people couldn’t either. Given the low turnout, it looks like a lot of others feel the same!

I do vote in all local and general elections though.

"old people" didn't all vote leave. Those who were alive during WW2 leaned to remain, statistically. Their children were leave-learning, in general, and THEIR children and grandchildren were remain leaning. Obviously with exemptions in every age group, but statistics show the trends depending on age.

Lots of older people voted remain. I voted remain and am over 50.

The divide in the referendum was also between cities in England and most of the rest of England. As for the latest vote England is basically all Brexit party except London and a few other places. Look at the BBC map on here a bit down the page www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48403131

Perhaps anyone with a terminal illness should also be banned from voting because they shouldn’t have a say in the future of the country?

CHUK party is a bit presumptuous of chukka, I think.

Still. they are going the way of old UKIP.

What this vote shows is the country is divided and polarised. No second vote will change that - whatever side wins it will be by a narrow margin

the parliamentary vote that supposedly disallowed No Deal Brexit was one by one vote out of 600, and than one was that of a convicted criminal. You don't get much more narrow than that.

Democracy.

That's what I am concerned about.

Regardless of my opinion on the Leave vote, it does not rest well with me that people may want to play God and over ride the majority opinion of the British people.

Totally agree CW1976 if we allow Brexit to be the hill that democracy dies on we have much bigger problems than whether or not we leave the EU.

Janet Daly writes for The Telegraph, she twists facts to suit her agenda. The Tories got a worse drubbing than Labour on any measurement

Seems to completely ignore the huge remain vote from Scotland in the form of SNP as well.

What the results show is that there isn’t a majority for the hard no-deal Brexit favoured by Farage. Not even close.

Xenia That BBC map of EU election results is remarkably similar tot he 2016 referendum map.

You can argue about old people and racists but essentially it seems to me to be a London V the Rest pattern of voting.
Mumsnet is very London centred so not surprising that these forums tend to be Remain dominated. It's a big mistake to think the rest of the country are just stupid.

I think permanent damage has been done already over this points at David Cameron and failure to implement a clear democratic mandate puts us at risk of having extremists elected to parliament at the next election. All those millions who voted leave will end up voting in Farage's mob. They who are largely unknown and may include many upstanding people but I suspect also quite a few from the far right.

I have had to make good use of TV mute button when crazy Brexiteers on saying result means we want to leave with No Deal. One out of 3 out of 4 out of 10 of the population who bothered to vote actually may want that which is a small proportion of people. Glad overall remain won the elections, see these results as a positive. I voted Green, DH voted Lib Dem, were previous Labour voters for 30 years. However if Corbyn thinks people like us only voted on a one issue Remain agenda and will be going back to Labour in a GE he is sadly deluded.

When are remainers going to stop embarrassing themselves with all this ridiculous bullshit about anything other than a clear Brexit victory?

Ha, not anytime soon as it was a Remain victory!

This thread is superficially funny.

@Dana, the pro Brexit parties got 35% of the vote, how is that a victory?

Did the 17.4 million come out for Nige? No. Now down to less than 4 million. A hard core who want No Deal.
Fuck 'em. WA, I could live with. No Deal? Bunch of twats.

There has got to be a People's Vote and the clear way for Remain to at last have the political will of the people heard is to have Remain as one option and then split Leave into 3 or 4 options. That will split the Leave vote leaving Remain the clear uncontested winner.

Oh OP, ha ha ha ha 😂 Can you really not see what is wrong with this?? Read it through and have another think about it.

I would say the petition was as much a referendum on brexit as the MEP elections were.

A petition where people signed several times with different emails from all over the world and where children also signed 😂😂😂

I too think Op must be of hairy hand because no one is that thick

The brexit party beat every other party in almost every area. I’m not sure how that translates into a remain victory?
I suppose you could try and fudge it by adding all the other parties together, but if you do that, then you’d have to add all the Tory votes & half of labours, plus UKIPs to give an ‘overall’ leave vote.
That would give a leave majority surely?

A petition where people signed several times with different emails from all over the world and where children also signed

Right. The European election was about as much a second brexit referendum as that.

Usual unpleasant Remainer thread. They sound more and more like fanatics. But the puzzle is fanatics for what? Juncker and Merckel? Bizarre.

Usual spiteful Remainer OP heading, too.

@tomtom1999xx

Yes, if you could all Tory votes as Leave (you shouldn't) and as much as 50% of Labour votes as Leave (you shouldn't), then added to BP and UKIP that would be 51%.

There is still a significant Tory Remain faction and something like a two thirds majority of Labour voters are for Remain. There were probably more Remainers than Leavers voting in these elections. That still doesn't tell us much because of turnout.