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To be delighted That Leave Have Lost

734 replies

donotcovertheradiator · 27/05/2019 00:18

I know it looks as if Brexit have won but in every single case, if you add up all the votes secured by the other parties then together they have more votes than Brexit. That means more people want to remain in Europe than Leave.

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Alsohuman · 27/05/2019 12:59

Farage was expecting 40% of the vote. There aren’t any winners or losers in this fucking mess. We’re all losers.

RedToothBrush · 27/05/2019 12:59

The formation of the Brexit Party is just Ukip rehashed so that Farage could dodge fines and debt that Ukip had accrued.

It's the political equivalent of a phoenix Ed sofa company that ripped off its suppliers and screwed its employees for pay that was due whilst the owners swanned off to start their next scheme.

jacksonmaine · 27/05/2019 13:01

*The Change Party is spot on. Have a people's Vote. let anyone over 10 vote and barr those aged over 70 and the lady from the Green Party has just now said that the numbers for the remain parties are higher and that Brexit have lost. I suppose she's stupid too...not

🤔 There's no answer to that really....other than go and boil your head you lunatic!!*

Remainers are really scraping the bottom now. I see most remainers as hedonistic controlling bullies now.

TheAngryLlama · 27/05/2019 13:02

“Hedonistic”? I hope you’re getting a dictionary for Christmas- or sooner, if poss

TheGardenFairy · 27/05/2019 13:03

It makes me wonder what the result would have been if The Brexit Party hadn't been formed at the last hour.

I suspect all those who voted for TBP wouldn't have voted. They had nobody to vote for....except UKIP maybe??

LovelyJubblee · 27/05/2019 13:04

My parents are both in their 70s and still working. Why shouldn't they have a say OP? Conversely my DS13 has no idea about politics and recently thought Stephens Hawking was on TV with Ant and Dec.......

I know who I would rather have voting

LovelyJubblee · 27/05/2019 13:05

TheGardenFairy

You are correct. I would have voted UKIP in that scenario

LovelyJubblee · 27/05/2019 13:05

*Stephen Hawking

twelly · 27/05/2019 13:09

No one knows whether either the remain or brexit vote were higher. What we do know is that we have a problem and need to find a resolution. We have to abide by the results of this election as we do the referendum

AlaskanOilBaron · 27/05/2019 13:11

My understanding is that 2 million eu citizens voted in the election, presumably most all remainers but I can’t find a breakdown. Has anyone found one?

As for green leavers (me- as in green with a small g)- I am far more alarmed about plastic, food supply chain, deforestation and animal welfare than co2. My views are radically beyond the EUs and i can’t believe anyone who’s actually well informed on the matter would support the common agricultural policy.

placemats · 27/05/2019 13:12

The Brexit Party got one million less votes than the Revoke petition.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584

placemats · 27/05/2019 13:13

The Brexit Party got one million less votes than the Revoke petition.

howwudufeel · 27/05/2019 13:14

Dear god. You can’t compare an election with a petition.

BishopBrennansArse · 27/05/2019 13:14

If you're looking for leave/remain you have to leave Labour and Conservatives out of it and just go with parties with a clear cut policy. I am a Labour member but couldn't vote with them in the EU elections as they are fence sitting. Conservatives are also divided.

So if you leave those two out of it I believe the greens and Lib Dem with change uk polled better than UKIP/Brexit didn't they?

Singlenotsingle · 27/05/2019 13:17

I get so fed up with leaves being slagged off, just because remoaners don't agree with them. Even now, we're being told we're not very bright, we're thick, uneducated, don't understand the issues, weren't given enough information etc etc. Yawn... So patronising! So rude. And interesting to watch the BBC, Alastair Campbell etc twisting the results to suit their own agenda...

Xenia · 27/05/2019 13:17

It is certainly a complicated situation. Let us see what happens on 31 Oct.

Gth1234 · 27/05/2019 13:17

@OP

fortunately, WE DIDN'T LOSE. :)

weren't you watching. Although watching on the BBC just exposed their total bias. Kuenssberg sounded like a remainer spokesman.

Piggywaspushed · 27/05/2019 13:18

Just to come back on the incinerator : I was not making that as a leave remain argument. I was pointing out that in this country at the moment, our government runs roughshod over environmental concerns , regularly, despite their 'small society' protestations. Apparently, in the Brave New World of post Brexit we will live in some ecological Nirvana. Now I really do call bullshit.

On the subject of 'hysterical;' Yes, it is a misogynistic term. Educate yourselves a little about its etymology.

placemats · 27/05/2019 13:19

Dear god. You can’t compare an election with a petition.

Rattled much?

As a remain voter, if the stats were that pro Brexit 40% and pro Remain 35% was the order of the day, I'd be the first to say, that's it. Let's leave. It's a fair and square result.

However, those stats are the opposite, with Northern Ireland still to give the result. Game on!

Time for another referendum.

Piggywaspushed · 27/05/2019 13:20

You are correct bishop : but the narrative is being rewritten and spun on here to try to suggest the Greens are not a Remain party. I honestly don't think you could find a party who have procrastinated less about their position on European exit.

TheAngryLlama · 27/05/2019 13:20

What this vote shows is the country is divided and polarised. No second vote will change that - whatever side wins it will be by a narrow margin.
I don’t know the resolution is. What I think will happen is this will finally alienate Scotland from the rest of the uk, and it’s only a matter of time before they express a desire to leave that union.
So go the foreseeable future the Westminster government is bogged down trying to deal with an extremely complex set of political, legal and economic problems both domestically and at European level. A recipe for stability and prosperity it is not.
Time to get out.

LiquidSwords · 27/05/2019 13:21

uneducated, don't understand the issues, weren't given enough information etc etc.

That is true of both leavers and remainers tbf.

Dear god. You can’t compare an election with a petition

I would say the petition was as much a referendum on brexit as the MEP elections were.

howwudufeel · 27/05/2019 13:22

placemats I am a remainer so I am not rattled. I just have the sense to realise you cannot possibly compare an election to a petition Grin

Gth1234 · 27/05/2019 13:23

You see, it's like the lord of the rings.

The leavers are brave little shire folk, surrounded by the remainer orcs, and the massed communist forces of Sauron -Corbyn- (but strikethrough isn't showing on the post preview)

But the brave little shire folk win through in the end.

And LOTR surely was such an allegory.

placemats · 27/05/2019 13:24

Those stats suggest it will not be a narrow margin.

This is my prediction.

The UK of Great Britain and Northern Ireland will break up with Northern Ireland uniting with Ireland and Scotland gaining independence.

That leaves the UK of England and Wales.

What England will look like is another matter. Certainly the UK of E&W will have a hard border, but where that border lies is anyone's guess

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