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To be delighted That Leave Have Lost

734 replies

donotcovertheradiator · 27/05/2019 00:18

I know it looks as if Brexit have won but in every single case, if you add up all the votes secured by the other parties then together they have more votes than Brexit. That means more people want to remain in Europe than Leave.

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Hotterthanahotthing · 27/05/2019 12:00

Also you can't say if all 18 yr old voted remain could win if you don't also give all the very old a chance,those in care homes or those unable to get to poling stations.
Those that you wish dead.

woman19 · 27/05/2019 12:01

There is no chance the election will be declared null and void

It happens. We shall see.......

Voter suppression is in breach of EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.

howwudufeel · 27/05/2019 12:03

woman19 believe me. The vote won’t be declared null and void.

geekone · 27/05/2019 12:03

Wow the line between Scotland and everywhere else is so extreme

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placemats · 27/05/2019 12:05

@howwudufeel

calling someone hysterical is misogynistic and hateful. You care little about the OP.

Bearbehind · 27/05/2019 12:06

We are all desperately worried about the future but your posts seem hysterical.

Agree.

OP, perhaps if you explain why you think Leave LOST whilst Remain need to be listened to when their results were broadly the same, more people might understand the point you are trying to make.

Bearbehind · 27/05/2019 12:07

How is it misogynistic to say a post is hysterical?

The OP could well be a man.

The fact is the posts are hysterical and dramatic.

placemats · 27/05/2019 12:07

Voter suppression is in breach of EU Charter of Fundamental Rights.

This is correct and the result can indeed be deemed null and void if this has happened. The EU elections are not a carbon copy of the USA elections.

Peregrina · 27/05/2019 12:08

placemats - I know a Green who voted Leave. His fellow party members were gobsmacked.

woman19 · 27/05/2019 12:08

The losing brexists sound a bit testerial today? Grin

howwudufeel · 27/05/2019 12:11

For the record I am a remainer who respects the referendum outcome and just wants to get on with things so we can concentrate on making the UK a fairer and more prosperous place.

AlexaAmbidextra · 27/05/2019 12:11

There has got to be a People's Vote and the clear way for Remain to at last have the political will of the people heard is to have Remain as one option and then split Leave into 3 or 4 options. That will split the Leave vote leaving Remain the clear uncontested winner.

Christ! You’re even more stupid than I first thought. Completely and utterly deluded. Oh, and I’ll throw in abysmally ignorant for good measure. 🙄

Cwenthryth · 27/05/2019 12:13

SNP now have 38% of the vote. It couldn't be clearer-Scotland want to Remain.
John Curtice also said on tv a short time ago that polling suggests around a third of those voting SNP are leave voters - despite the SNP’s explicit anti-Brexit platform, I guess they value Scottish secession more. It’s really not as simple as your interpretation OP.

Isatis · 27/05/2019 12:15

I'm a leaver and voted Green for Climate change

How is that possible? If you are concerned about climate change, why would you want to throw away the benefit of EU environmental protection regulations? Surely no-one seriously thinks that a government run by the likes of Johnson and Rees-Mogg, let alone Farage, would prioritise the introduction of comparable or better regulations in the UK?

TheGardenFairy · 27/05/2019 12:15

Why is it misogynistic to conclude someone's posts come across as hysterical placemats?

OP has stated she wants 10 year olds to vote, but not 70 year olds. She claims leave lost, when the figures show otherwise. Besides which this wasn't a vote on brexit. Then we have rather skewed posts about Gina Miller being a heroine and Corbyn being our saviour.

OP's posts, do indeed, come across as being hysterical.. and rather desperate.

placemats · 27/05/2019 12:15

John Curtice also said on tv a short time ago that polling suggests around a third of those voting SNP are leave voters - despite the SNP’s explicit anti-Brexit platform, I guess they value Scottish secession more. It’s really not as simple as your interpretation OP.

That simply suggests that those leave voters have CHANGED THEIR MIND

Tigerlilly17 · 27/05/2019 12:16

A vote is a vote and if it’s overturned because the vote didn’t go their way then that means everyone can kick and scream when their elected party doesn’t get in and get a re vote, or they can demand the lotto numbers be pulled again as they didn’t like the first set drawn. Very dangerous imo to change the system to please the minority. I take it democracy is dead and there’s no point ever voting again if the choice isn’t ours??

placemats · 27/05/2019 12:17

this wasn't a vote on brexit.

It most certainly was!

donotcovertheradiator · 27/05/2019 12:17

Oh dear! How hysterical to say I wish people in care homes dead. Hysterical and insulting.
I don't wish anyone dead. I wish older people weren't allowed to vote in something that will not affect their futures in the same way it will impact on our youth.

Anyway, the Leavers are here to give a kicking-as always- but the facts remain. I'm not going to keep arguing with those who think anyone who dares to do that is either unwell or hysterical!

Thanks to all those who provided facts and graphs to illustrate the fact BREXIT LOST and of course, for those who are interested in the facts, listen to the likes of Gina, Owen, Alistair, Prof Curtis and the BBC.

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Cwenthryth · 27/05/2019 12:17

placemats sorry that wasn’t the interpretation Prof Curtice implied, rather that people who still supported Brexit voted SNP anyway.

ShoshanaC · 27/05/2019 12:18

Actually the line between Scotland and the rUK isn't that different, that is... if you class people wanting to leave Europe as racist parochial nationalistic bigots.

The SNP do not speak for Scotland and are full of vile anti-English nationalists who would sooner leave their nearest neighbour and trading partner than just get on and govern the country. No, they are intent on agitating for "independence" at any cost. They are no more welcoming of the EU than they are socialists. And they'd be out of Europe already had they won the 2016 referendum. That's how much they care about Europe. They'll say ANYTHING to find an excuse to distance themselves from the rest of UK.

AlexaAmbidextra · 27/05/2019 12:19

In fact, if all those who wanted to remain had actually voted in the Referendum instead of rightly feeling disenfranchised=Remain would have had a massive majority. Are we, as Gina Miller pointed out, to ignore their voices!!!

Well of course their voices are ignored if they didn’t bother to vote. Are you really that hard of understanding? It’s so true that you can’t argue with stupid.

Cwenthryth · 27/05/2019 12:19

OP you realise that (your saviour) Jeremy Corbyn turned 70 yesterday, and you would deny him a vote in a second referendum? Can you see how silly that sounds?

Gigglinghysterically · 27/05/2019 12:21

"You may laugh all you like at my suggestion-it seems I'm fair game-but I do believe that is what is going to happen and I haven't made it up, as I have heard politicians and Gina Miller argue for it."
Well if politicians and Gina Miller argued for it then it must be true Grin I don't doubt that you believe this will happen, OP, but I'm just telling you I believe it won't so don't build your hopes up.

"The Real People's Vote will have Remain-that can't be divided down into options- and Leave which luckily can be divided down into options."
"This will split the Leave vote and we will REMAIN, which is what the majority of thinking, non racist, people in the UK actually want."
The Government will never put to the country a vote which is transparently unfair like this. Do you not realise that there are politicians across all parties who want to leave the EU who would not allow this to happen? It would cause uproar in the country and has the potential for civil unrest.

Parliament really will never put such a one-sided vote to the country.

Alsohuman · 27/05/2019 12:21

Ten year olds voting and 70 year olds disenfranchised - you lost all credibility with that, OP.