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To want to visit 86 yr old mum in summer?

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fatpuffin · 26/05/2019 08:04

Mum is 86 in June, and having a cataract operation on her birthday. She lives alone in a lovely place abroad where people go for holidays.
I managed to persuade hubby to let me go at Easter with the kids, and was concerned that she is getting a bit confused. Hubby had serious surprise surgery year and half ago and is v depressed but managed 12 days alone ( friends were brilliant)while I visited her. Obviously I would like to visit mum in summer/ as often as possible. Thought it would be cheap and easy and fiestas etc on.for kids. And he can sit by pool .
She’s also always said, ‘don’t worry, visit when you can’ and this is the first time she’s said it would be nice to have me there. For op.
Husband never been keen to spend his holidays with his mil. ( been 2 or 3 times for a week in 20 years. Everyone else I know loves it, and mum not exactly hard work. I always have a real struggle to get to go and visit. And kids always ask why dad doesn’t come) Fair enough, so we usually have a week in the uk. And he wants to do that this year, says it’s too hot and he’ll be stuck in her living room
My thinking is that we live in a lovely part of the uk so to drive 10 hours to more countryside and self catering is well, ok, but just more countryside.
.Obv being critically ill affects your mood and we both got v depressed trying to entertain kids in countryside and felt very isolated, even with v supportive mates. To me a week off season will just be more that. How do I entertain kids early teens who don’t like beach or walking ? Last year we stopped in lakes on way from his mum and it wasn’t really a success. He’s also v depressed so hard to keep atmosphere positive for kids. And depression is catching. It’s horrible actually.
He is Also the earner, in a job he hates. I’m forevr looking for work and not getting much joy ( I do a day a week at the mo) have some savings to get air fare.
So Who do I ‘look after’? He doesn’t want to go to mums which is Fair enough but would make like so simple. but how do I get to see her? Would it be ok to go see her for the week of her op and leave him at home with kids? (11 and 14, so could fend for themselves till he gets in). Or have hol with him then take kids to see mum and leave him alone for a week? I’m sure there’s a simple answer. Not helped in that visiting mum is seen as a holiday, while he earns all the money. ( really don’t spend anything on me and I’ll use savings to pay for fare). and I’m being daft, but tbh feeling bit overwhelmed. Would be so easy if he’d just enjoy going to Spain! Or Aibu.? Solutions please!

OP posts:
LittleOwl153 · 04/06/2019 11:12

Oh and on the financial front - make sure the child benefit claim is in your name not his - makes it much easier to claim for other benefits if you need to on a slplit.

I'd also make sure you have a bank account in your own name - he dies not need to know initially about it - you can do it all online to avoid post. I'd get your child benefit and your own wages paid into there directly and transfer the money from there into the joint account given that he is threatening to change things about to teach you a lesson. Take some control of your own finances.

Build up your own 'fight fund' so that you can get away if needed. Don't tell him it exists, top it up when you can. If you are not married he has no control over your bank accounts in your own name.

CurbsideProphet · 04/06/2019 11:29

@fatpuffin I hope you have your own bank account and are paid into that account?

A marriage should be a partnership supporting each other, not one dictating to the other and making threats. I hope you find your way through this all Flowers

Lunde · 04/06/2019 11:34

Why not call his bluff about the therapist? Tell him that you will come along to the next session and talk it through. If he backtracks, strops or refuses you know he is lying.

I cannot imagine that a legitimate therapist would believe that a man has any kind of veto power over where his wife goes - especially to visit her elderly, sick mother

fatpuffin · 04/06/2019 15:11

ha Lunde! i thought to call her, but thats better!
Thank you ladies. Ive asked mn to delete this thread as its getting a bit serious and i dont want to risk anyone i know seeing it. alerts also pop up on my email, which is not exactly helpful! I would judt like to say a massive thanks, you are all amazing. i may well/probably pop up in relationships!
but the main thing is, IAM GOING TO SEE MY MUM, YAY! for one week for her op and bday. of course the next thread will be all about whetehr i can take the kids in the summer! not pushing it at all!!!

OP posts:
IHeartArya · 04/06/2019 15:19

Flowers best of luck op!

fatpuffin · 04/06/2019 15:24

thank you ayra! and y'all for your support. would have caved without you xx

OP posts:
Ticklingcheese · 04/06/2019 15:29

Best of luck, take care.

LimpidPools · 04/06/2019 15:29

Good luck with everything OP!

Lunde · 05/06/2019 12:30

Good luck OP
Flowers

fatpuffin · 05/06/2019 22:14

thanks guys. i wasnt going to post again, but am concerned.
we had a big chat this morning, and i noticed that its always seems to be an attack, never a discussion. this evening he came home in a foul mood and demanded to go through the bank account.
he very suspicious beacuse mum gave me a credit card to pay to visit her ( she knew it might be tricky) (wtf. what am i writing.) he called me a bitch in front of dd who told him that wasn't on (go girl) and i said, calmly (i hope) that he could be cross, but that language wasnt on. ever. he talked to dd while i cooked dinner (goodness knows what he said, but i didnt intefere). and went to bed. kids seem ok, and dd playing pop music. but. i kept calm becuase I knew you guys had pointed out this might be abusive. so thanks to you i was able to tell myself it isnt normal, and keep calm. but am shocked.

OP posts:
Ticklingcheese · 05/06/2019 22:34

Oh puffin, sorry to hear, we have tried to open your eyes a little, perhaps in time you will be more ready. But your dd is in the middle of this having to defend you? I'm sure whatever your h said to her, she is not happy with the situation.
Still wishing you courage and clarity.

Ticklingcheese · 05/06/2019 22:47

Btw go to settings on MN, under notifications you can 'silence' it.

fatpuffin · 05/06/2019 22:55

thanks tc. thought i had! also just needed to hear that i wasnt going mad.signing off now xxx

OP posts:
LittleGwyneth · 05/06/2019 23:33

Go and see your mum.

theWarOnPeace · 06/06/2019 00:12

Oh puffin you are in an abusive relationship, please start looking for a way out, so that your children don’t get stuck in the cycle. None of this is really about seeing your mum. It’s about control, and dominance. Every person on earth has the right to see their sick mother for goodness sake. He’s a pig, and is going to project his nastiness onto your children too.

IHeartArya · 06/06/2019 06:06

Oh op I suspect he’s scared he’s losing control over you. Good. Just be careful in case it escalates. Do start looking for a way out. He’s a nasty abusive bully.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 06/06/2019 06:40

I was depressed and a twat, but I would never permit or forbid DW anything (apart from Marmite in Bolognese sauce). What a cock.

milkshak3 · 06/06/2019 07:38

None of this is really about seeing your mum. It’s about control, and dominance.

^This!

hope you find a way forward (that is 'out'), OP.

devilinme · 06/06/2019 08:38

I have no sympathy for your DH.

Ticklingcheese · 06/06/2019 10:34

Please puffin, do consider what pps have said. I know it will take a long time for you to realize and act upon it. But jumping from situation to situation - now it's good, now it's not - will not change the fact your h is abusing you. Do consider the impact on your dcs, as well.
Get councelling, someone only you can talk to about your situation.

AND DO GO SEE YOUR MUM.

Fingers crossed for you.

Tooner · 06/06/2019 11:17

You have had your eyes opened that this is not just the issue of visiting your Mum. You done brilliantly staying calm through his nasty rant.
Saying that and especially in front of your daughter is disgusting behaviour. He is angry because you have dared to go against his wishes.
Time to get your thoughts together and have a good think about where to go from here.

SeaToSki · 08/06/2019 11:46

You sound like such a lovely person. You have been taking care of your husband all these years, giving your all to your marriage, raising your dc and putting yourself at the back of the queue. Thats what nice people do, and especially what nice people do who are married, because you promise to stick together through thick and thin when you marry someone.

But

That only works if the person you married does the same too.

Im not sure your DH is, and you might want to sit back and think if you are prepared to still be in this same situation in another 30 years, if you want to go and visit your grownup DD and her family and your DH is fussing and banning you from that etc. Having all the stress and uncertainty swirling around you all the time with that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach every morning when you wake up wondering about what the day’s moan will be about.

I think you might want to talk to a therapist yourself, I think you might need some help to work through your natural fears that DH might never change into a loving generous warm husband who will treat you like you treat him, who will say of course darling, go and visit your DM. I can look after the dc and maybe you should stay an extra day or two and have some fun with your Mum when she is feeling better. (Because that is what you would say if the situation was reversed -right?). I think you are scared of making a change, and /or drawing a line in the sand. That is very natural and a therapist could help you decide what change (if any) you want and where you want your lines to be.

I am so glad you are going to see your DM, and very sad that she is having to pay for it and your DH didnt step up and pay himself.

7yo7yo · 08/06/2019 12:10

Hi op
I hope you get this before the thread goes poof.
He’s an evil abusive manipulative cunt and you should make plans to leave him.
Wishing you all the best x

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