To ask is going to be next Tory leader?

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Surely we are not going to end up with Boris - apparently the bookies’ favourite .

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And if we do end up with Boris or someone as awful, what do you think that will then lead to? A no deal Brexit? A General Election?

I think the forthcoming political crisis might be worse than what we have yet seen. And I am not looking forward to the gruesome sight of the Tory leadership contest.

Arrogant and entitled.

If the vast majority of Conservative party members were clever enough, sane enough and reasonable enough they would vote for Rory Stewart. He’s the only leadership candidate that one might remotely consider statesman-like. They aren’t though, are they? And they will vote to save their party before the country so Boris is probably a forgone conclusion. Or is he? I am very confused by Matt Hancock - who can barely string a sentence together and always sounds like a sixth former giving a hastily prepared General a studies presentation - thinking he has a cat in hell’s chance. And yet... I remember the Heseltine/Major contest so remind myself that these are the Tories we are talking about, and anything is possible.
I wish these dreadful men - barring McVey - would stop seeing Parliament as some kind of finishing school post their pre-ordained private school/Oxbridge trajectories. I wish the people of the UK realised they deserve better. We don’t though, so welcome to another 5 years of the Tories.
God help us all.

I agree with those who said most Tory MP’s don’t trust Boris

Most people see him for what he is ruthlessly ambitious but that won’t stop Tory MP’s supporting him as being in power is more important than sticking to your principles and being in opposition

And despite people being able to see through him they still have voted for him and will again

As for the Tories being misogynistic Labour have yet to have a women to lead the party it won’t happen whole Momentum are controlling the party which sadly will be for sometime yet

What Brexiteers fail to grasp is that sooner or later there will have to be a deal struck with the EU. Even if we were to leave and by all means lets do so - if that's what we've voted for then so be it (I'm a remainer), but frankly the way the UK has gone about it has rendered it impossible for us to come out anything other than screwed. We are a laughing stock amongst our European contemporaries.

I can't see it being anyone other than BoJo really.
Trust in parliament is in tatters the Tory Party is falling apart and the opposition not much better. A strong decisive leader is needed to move things forward. A no deal Brexit is realistically the o ly option left on the table as far as I can see.
People saying there might be a GE are deluded why the heck would the tories call one now when support fortheir party is at an all time low?

What Brexiteers fail to grasp is that sooner or later there will have to be a deal struck with the EU.
No dear nobody has failed to grasp that! We buy more from the EU than vice versa so we are in a stdo her negotiating position

The Tories don’t need to call a GE. A vote of no confidence would do it. If Boris is Tory leader his arse won’t touch the front bench before Jeremy proposes a no confidence vote and it would sail through.

They wouldn’t choose a GE, but these are unusual times. But a vote of no confidence could lead to a GE. Tories who don’t want a No Deal Brexit could end up voting against the government as the only way to stop it from happening.

If Boris is Tory leader his arse won’t touch the front bench before Jeremy proposes a no confidence vote and it would sail through.

Yes this.

A strong decisive leader is needed to move things forward. A no deal Brexit is realistically the o ly option left on the table as far as I can see.

Boris is not strong or decisive. He is lazy and has no principles. He might be able to ride a wave supported by the rags, yes.

No deal is not the only option left either. A much longer extension during which we sort things out properly is also possible.

If Boris is Tory leader his arse won’t touch the front bench before Jeremy proposes a no confidence vote and it would sail through.
I don't think a GE at the moment would be a great move on labour's part either. Both parties could well be annhilated

No deal is not the only option left either. A much longer extension during which we sort things out properly is also possible.
Well let's see what tomorrow night brings, but the Brexit delay seems to have decimated the Conservative and labour party. I think whoever gets the top job will be keen to get it sorted

Good point @Dana but I think the Labour Party is deluded enough not to recognise that. And a lot of natural Labour voters would hold their noses and vote for them whatever.

I think it will be Boris. Maybe Dominic Raab if he stands.
I'm not convinced a no confidence vote would succeed, even if Bojo wins and Labour call one. Some Tory MPs on their way out may vote for it but the majority will ultimately stay on the gravy train. I think the DUP will stick with the Tories.

The DUP has already ditched the Tories.

Corbyn has zero political judgement and will absolutely try to force a general election he will lose. There’ll probably be another hung parliament and we’ll just have wasted a load more time.

Although Michael Heseltine spoke about supporting the Lib Dems. He lost the whip of course, but there will be other pro EU Tories probably feel the same about it. This is a massive deal for MPs who have spent their career supporting EU membership.

The other option is another referendum, which would make sense as a lot has changed since 2016. But I fear the mood in the country could turn really ugly, particularly if the vote goes the other way.

As a Tory I can say that Boris will definitely be the next PM. There is no one else that the members are talking about, he is a shoe in to win.

The reason why, is 2 simple points. May betrayed Brexit, she promised 'no deal was better than a bad deal' but when push came to shove she refused to take us out of the EU. Boris will give us a proper Brexit.

The second reason is that the left elected an anti-semitic, terrorist supporting communist/marxist as their leader. The only way to defeat him is to fight fire with fire. So the further the left move to the extreme the further the right will counter balance.

I supported Blair and Cameron but when the threat is someone like Corbyn the centre ground is dead and we need someone like Boris to stand up to him.
Without the centre the most important thing is to stop madmen like Corbyn, no matter the cost.

You’re taking it for granted Boris will reach the final two, Fangirl. The PLP can easily ensure he never gets the chance for members to vote for him.

Tory members are way to the right of most Tory MPs - they prob all voted for brexit party at the EU elections. Its just awful. Our PM is being decided by extremists in their thousands. The next PM would likely drag us out of the EU with No Deal in October.

Rory Stewart is the best candidate but has no chance as he's actually sane.

Very disappointed that Amber Rudd will likely back Johnson.

Maybe there should be a campaign of mass entryism into the Tory party to make sure a No Deal-er won't win :p

The reason why, is 2 simple points. May betrayed Brexit, she promised 'no deal was better than a bad deal' but when push came to shove she refused to take us out of the EU. Boris will give us a proper Brexit.

No, the ERG and DUP, by voting against May’s deal, are the ones who got in the way of Brexit happening to the very tight deadline that it was a mistake to set.

How on earth is Boris going to attract voters currently prepared to vote for Corbyn?

A hung parliament would not be a waste of time. It depends who holds the balance of power. Eg a significant swing towards the libdems would make a big difference to the sort of Brexit we end up with.

Well we have what we have - i think similar to crochety, after the EU results, the politicians and their parties will organize or dis-organize themselves accordingly.

Just as all politicians, political parties, etc will also do throughout the other 27 EU countries.

Only a gambler would place a bet on any certainity in any direction right now. No one knows - despite any assertions that they think they do.

As far as the next Tory Leader and next UK PM is concerned - I care little who they are, because they won't be in situ for long, just another step in a yet to be decided direction.

I hope it's not Gove only because he's one ofthe best Agriculture/ Environment Ministers we've had for years (of any political persuasion) and I think he really likes his job too.

How on earth is Boris going to attract voters currently prepared to vote for Corbyn?

Exactly. It must his mythical magical man of the people persona. Such a lot of toss.

No dear nobody has failed to grasp that! We buy more from the EU than vice versa so we are in a stronger negotiating position

Jeez the EU isn't a fucking country....have you not managed to grasp this simple fact yet?

No wonder we are in such a mess.