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First Date, who pays?

598 replies

DreamsOfDownUnder · 23/05/2019 10:29

So I'm going on a first date on Sunday evening for some food and drinks.

I'm planning on going dutch... I think?

What are people's opinion, man/woman pays/go dutch or do we pay for what we've had.. It's been a while since I've been one!

OP posts:
Aprillygirl · 23/05/2019 19:48

Most women aren't gold diggers...unless you are a 95 year old billionaire with multiple mansions and yachts, you really don't need to trouble yourself worrying about gold diggers... honestly

This in spades.

Fromablokespoint · 23/05/2019 19:50

@Intothe
I briefly had a guy want to date me. He showed me pics of his two Aston Martins and wanted me to send pics of myself naked in return. Lol

Ohhh can you send me some pics.

Of the Aston's please.

Kennehora · 23/05/2019 19:51

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Dateluv · 23/05/2019 19:53

@Hithere12
I never said l was single, but happily involved. However, thanks again for your message...

ElectricOrgan · 23/05/2019 20:11

Always pay half on a first date. It's an exploratory process. So even if I never saw them again, my conscience would be ok with not having taken advantage.

JMKid · 23/05/2019 20:13

I would offer to pay but would expect the man to pay. I would be put off him if he split the bill.

Hithere12 · 23/05/2019 20:26

Always pay half on a first date. It's an exploratory process. So even if I never saw them again, my conscience would be ok with not having taken advantage

Oh please. 🙄 get some self worth.

Hithere12 · 23/05/2019 20:28

It’s only a meal if you don’t think you’re worth even that then that’s a bit sad 🤷‍♀️

EdWinchester · 23/05/2019 20:31

Split, split, split.

I watch First Dates on c4 and then end up incensed at all the women, who are on a blind date, that happily let the men pay. Every bloody time.

DecomposingComposers · 23/05/2019 20:32

It’s only a meal if you don’t think you’re worth even that then that’s a bit sad 🤷‍♀️

And if the man feels the same?

Do you do the same when you go out with friends ie expect them to pay for you? After all, you're worth it.

Hecateh · 23/05/2019 20:38

I am older than most of you and used dating sites way before they went online. Newspaper sites (We had to write actual letters and put stamps on them and put them in the post box with a box number. lol)

I have always expected/chosen to go Dutch on first meetings. I haven't always insisted. If I was happy to see them again and they insisted on paying I would go along with it but ensure I paid next time.

The only occasion I broke my rule

He suggested a meal, I suggested a drink but he 'really wanted to go for a meal', he was racist and elitist during the meal as well as ordering for me (I corrected that and told the waitress what I really wanted ... which was cheaper than his suggestion) and he ordered a stupidly expensive bottle of wine.

Forgive me

I let him pay

This was I think in the mid 90s

One guy in the noughties, turned up on foot, 'I thought you could drop me home, I only live a couple of miles away'. - I went to the bar for the second drink and somehow found myself outside ... in my car ... going home alone.

Another guy came in full leathers on a huge bike (not a problem) Both his front teeth were missing, he had bad breath, I bought the first drink, he finished before me, then I finished and suggested another one, he waved his glass at me – I bought a second drink and when finished I said I had to get back for the baby sitter – ‘So when are we meeting again?’ he said. ‘I don’t think we’re suited’ I said. I got a mouthful of abuse amongst which was ‘I had led him on’ and ‘you say you want equality but you only want it on your terms’ WTF.

I could write a book as the saying goes.

I still keep dipping my toe in the water but very quickly withdraw it. There is no investment in the responses these days. Click and connect, click and forget. It seems that the lack of effort needed leads to instant forgetfulness.

recrudescence · 23/05/2019 20:43

Kennehora - really good post.

Afreet · 23/05/2019 20:51

Yy Kennehora.

formerbabe · 23/05/2019 20:51

This thread just shows that so many men don't understand women. You're embarrassing yourselves. They are so basic they honestly think a woman who would like him to pay genuinely just wants a free Caesar salad and a g&t..they cannot see the bigger picture and what it represents.

DecomposingComposers · 23/05/2019 21:00

So what is the bigger picture?

I certainly don't want a man, or anyone, to pay for me.

So what is it that the women who do want to be paid for are looking for?

Pa1oma · 23/05/2019 21:01

“This thread just shows that so many men don't understand women. You're embarrassing yourselves.”

Yes exactly this.

It’s so sad that they have to reduce everything to the money. Total lack of understanding and integrity.

Pa1oma · 23/05/2019 21:02

As if any woman in their right mind would go out with a man they weren’t interested in, just for a free dinner.
I’d rather pull my teeth out.

DecomposingComposers · 23/05/2019 21:03

Lol.

It's hilarious that the posters who expect to be paid for are the ones accusing men of reducing everything to money.

If money isn't the issue why not pay for yourself or pick up the whole bill? If, you know, money isn't the issue.

formerbabe · 23/05/2019 21:11

@DecomposingComposers

Your comments just prove my point. You do not, it appears, have the emotional intelligence to see why a woman would like to be paid for on a date. You assume she's just happy to get a free meal and a few drinks ...you just don't get it.

Pa1oma · 23/05/2019 21:18

If you don’t get it Decomposing, I’m not sure I can explain it to you.

Women are attracted to physical male traits obviously, but also certain behavioural male traits. I don’t want a man who would treat me as he wouid one of his friends. I’m not one of his mates. I like a man who has integrity, self- respect and is a gentleman. It is absolutely nothing to do with money. The fact you keep reducing it to that says more about you than anything else. It’s a psychological / sexual / behavioural dynamic. If you don’t get it, then you don’t get it, but I have to tell you most people do get it.

Having said this, I have never been on a blind date in my life and wouldn’t have ever done “speculative” dating. If I was on a date with someone, I wouldn’t even leave the house unless I was genuinely interested. I wouldn’t waste his time otherwise, let alone his money. When I was dating in the 90s, a man would actually ask you out in person or you knew him before so you had a fairly good idea what you were potentially getting into. I have never in my life been out with a man for any other reason than genuinely being attracted to him, but if he wasn’t a gent then he wouid have been in the “friend zone” in my mind. I wouid find it excruciatingly embarrassing to be on a date with a man as a “finding out” exercise.

PracticallySpeaking · 23/05/2019 21:19

I think it should totally be the man who offers to pay. It’s the manly thing to do.

Just like if I hear a noise in the middle of the night I want it to be my DH who jumps up and ventures downstairs to take a look. Definitely don’t want him cowering behind the bed expecting me to be the one to go down, or to hear him say “it’s your turn, I looked last time”

formerbabe · 23/05/2019 21:23

As if any woman in their right mind would go out with a man they weren’t interested in, just for a free dinner.
I’d rather pull my teeth out

Quite.

This is the UK in 2019...even with government cuts and austerity most women can afford food and don't need to go on dates just to get a free meal no doubt in a chain restaurant by the way

PracticallySpeaking · 23/05/2019 21:28

Yes, Pa1oma explained it better than I did. It’s about finding certain traits attractive in the opposite sex

formerbabe · 23/05/2019 21:31

Yes I agree it's behavioural and psychological. Nothing to with money. Do you really think a woman thinks "yes! I got a salad nicoise and a vodka and orange for free!"

Hithere12 · 23/05/2019 21:34

@DecomposingComposers

There’s nothing worse than a tight man. There just isn’t 🤷‍♀️ If it was about money I’d be looking for a sugar daddy who’d be able to cover all expenses, but I’m not interested in anything close to that!

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