To ask if you're a remainer , which party you're voting for tomorrow?

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Just that really. I want to make an informed decision but really don't know who should get my vote. Am thinking Lib Dems - good balance of wanting a People's Vote and prioritising climate change. Help!

To the remainer PP who is still sore about student fees. Wake up! That was a decade ago. Today is about Brexit not what happened three leaders ago. It doesn’t matter whether your local Labour MP is a remainer. Today’s vote doesn’t affect him or her. This is for MEPs. A vote for Labour is a vote for Brexit. If you want to bring stability back to our country you must vote for the two parties who say they want to remain - Green or Lib Dem. Definitely not the Tory’s or Labour.

Why do remainers and liberals in general handwring over little things which result in split votes and a stronger far right?

The right are single minded and just vote for what will get them what they want. They would never dither over whether to vote for Farage because of something which happened a decade ago.

Plus wasn’t it Labour who brought in student fees in the first place?

Brexit Party

Lib dems. I normally vote Labour in a very Tory area.

Lib Dems. Only party able to rescue us from this unbelievable mess.

Thanks sculpin that's an excellent site. It explains the tactics well. It's gone against remain voter somewhat in my area and said Lib Dem rather than green. However, I've seen a lot of green party signs in windows. I'm usually a lib dem supporter although not recently so will stick to them, I think.

One last rant before I go to work.

If Farage sweeps the board we will only have a far right representation in Europe along with the other far right MEPs who are likely to be voted in today.

What do you think that means for future EU laws on climate change policy, human and workers rights?

For as long as the UK remains in the EU we will have people who only want to cause trouble and roll back progressive policies on ‘our side’.

I'm torn because I'm in Scotland. I'm a remainer, but every pro remain vote will be held up by the SNP as a mandate for a second indyref.

I'm more concerned about staying in the UK than I am about staying in the EU so I'm tempted to vote pro brexit. The brexit result is what it is, we can't put it back in the box. But we can get ahead of the SNP and their calls for yet another divisive referendum.

Completely agree unfinishedkitchen Apart from anything else, the Lib Dems losing their seats led to this torment in the first place. Their policy was not 'free university for all' anyway. It was a graduate tax, which is effectively what we have (not to mention it not being very socialist to expect the 50% of people who didn't get a university education to pay for a priveleged 50% to go to university through their taxes)

The people who think it's suspicious the remain tactical voting sites are returning lib dem/green for everywhere.... Did it occur to you that's because they're the only two main parties who explicitly want us to remain?? In this case it's not so much "follow the money" as "follow the entire point of the exercise"... Conspiracy nutterw make me laugh.

Green!

For the first time ever, Green

I’ve voted. I was the only one in there.

Was torn between Lib Dem and green but voted Lib Dem in the end.

For me I'll be voting Green regardless as I always do as they are the only party as far as I can tell who base their policies on research evidence not public opinion, who can answer a straightforward question even if the answer isn't going to please everyone, and whose leadership isn't perpetually at each others throats. The only grown ups basically.

I don't understand the Remain Voter website logic. In my area it suggests that the Lib Dems are secure and will gain two seats, therefore I should vote Change UK. But wouldn't it make equal if not more sense to vote Lib Dem so that they could win an extra seat? And don't they stand a better chance of doing so?

Liberal. The only party that is clear in its desire to stay in the EU. Never voted for them before as pre Corbyn I was a Labour supporter. Because of Corbyn I voted Tory in the last election but now I wouldn’t touch them with a barge pole as a party that cannot unite and actually believes that Johnson is the best choice of leader has, as far as I can see, well and truly lost the plot.

Ah, I've answered my own question by looking at the politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2019/05/22/the-remain-strategy-region-by-region-voting-guide site. That makes it much clearer - thanks to Sculpin for posting it.

Acis I was thinking the same. I am a bit nervous of voting for Change UK as recommended by remainvoter, but having read the article you've posted I will stick with my plan of voting Libdem.

I'll prob be going for Green, although will decide when I get into the booth.

Annoyingly my kids school is closed today as it is a polling station!

Green

Rededder I’m voting the Brexit party as a protest vote. I’m a remainer but the vote must stand
The other reason this is nonsense is because regardless of how many EU seats they get, the Brexit Party can do nothing to ensure 'the vote must stand' because leaving needs to be done via our own (UK) parliament.
Sheesh.

Lib Dem.

Green here.

The tactical voting websites make a lot of assumptions about people’s voting intentions - and people sticking with their intended vote.

So if everyone who said they would vote Lib Dem/green did, where it recommends voting green is based on the fact that the number of votes needed to take the Lib Dems from one to two seats (say) is greater than the number needed to take the greens from zero to one. Therefore fewer new green voters are needed to add an extra remain vote than new lib dem voters.

Of course, as this thread has shown, voters can’t be relied on to vote as pollsters expect them to! So with that in mind the best ‘tactical’ vote is to vote for the choice of green or Lib Dem that best reflects your politics as there’s really no way of guessing how the vote will fall.

Having said that, I agree with the Scottish change UK candidate who recommended people don’t vote for him but for the Lib dems!

There’s a vote today? I don’t think I got a card. Is this a national one or regional?