To think 8:45 isn’t time for.....

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Ostentatious family garden time?

My next door neighbours seem to think it is. Every night they bring their toddler out about this time and then loudly whoop and shout joyous declarations at such things such as him kicking a ball or them all dancing in a circle clapping their hands.

It’s really annoying

Take it Rufus Rumpus is a PFB? :)

They are possibly trying to keep him awake so they get a lie in the next day? By taking him outside he perks up and has a sudden burst of energy 🤣

Sounds better than sticking him In front of peppa pig for half an hour.

Miserable git! Move house!

Are they from outside the UK? Other nationalities have different ideas about kids bed times. There's a family near me who could be out on the green playing football with their 3 kids (who are all under 6) till about 9pm. I think it's lovely to see.

It's not late. A two year old who isn't having to get up for nursery or school, or a two year old who doesn't need naps but has one at nursery may have a later bedtime, it doesn't mean they aren't getting enough sleep.

Why would you be angling for a lie in on a Tuesday AM? Anyway it’s every evening.

The other night the dad was gardening and I got a full bum view

I feel your pain.

Quite happy to hear kids playing - and with the lighter evenings and nice weather it's to be expected. But spare me the bloody performance parenting!

What's that Rufus? Yes, it's a butterfly. Which kind of butterfly is it? Yes it's a pieris rapae. Rufus, say "Pieris". P-i-e-r--i-s. Come on Rufus, you normally love lepidopterology, don't you?

All parroted at 100 decibels to a 2 y/o who is more focused on shoving sand in his mouth than paying attention to his neurotic parents, who themselves are more concerned that everybody knows how frightfully intelligent they are...

YANBU. I have 3DCs and can't stand the noise of their garden high jinx past a certain point. I certainly don't add to it with my own unless it's the daytime at the weekend and even then I wouldn't do OTT performance parenting. Even with my precious first-born as a toddler, we weren't whooping and shrieking constantly in the garden. Also if it's a toddler, they should be doing bath and bed at 7pm as toddlers need at least 11 hours sleep and usually 12 to run at their best so for an ordinary family who gets up at 7-8am (or earlier obviously) then that 12 or 11 hours needs working back to find the best bedtime for a young child.

Harumph.

Exactly @controversialferret the more I write on this thread the more I feel sorry for poor Rufus. It’s his parents I have beef with

YABU

They are probably trying to diffuse mad hour when kids are an absolute pain in the arse in the house. Been there done that.

Your fault for being so poor you have to live nose to cheek with the prols

bordello but mad hour(s) (it does exist I agree) is usually between 5-6.30. Having a mad hour at beyond 7-8pm for a toddler is usually because they are over tired (that does also exist) and are probably desperate to go to bed but have got second wind, but that second wind is usually a very cranky second wind.

Best to just whisk them all to bed

I was outside with my nearly 2 year old at 8.45pm. Nursery let her sleep today at 4pm so she wasn’t ready for bed at her usual time. We had a lovely half an hour throwing the ball for the dog and eating “bedtime toast” on the patio. Bloody lovely.
I really don’t think it’s an issue.

One of the nicest things I heard over the weekend was a Mum out in the garden with her baby and older daughter who I think is about 5. She was teaching her how to make daisy chains as they have just started to pop up here. They were making a crown for the baby who thought this was great fun. Lots of giggles and a bit of squealing. But it was lovely to listen to. It would have sucked all of the joy out of it if the woman had been painstakingly lecturing them both about the lifecycle of bellis perennis!

The Duchess of Cambridge is extolling the virtue of outside play. Maybe they are taking a leaf out of her book.

Chill out. It will be pissing down soon.

YABU and nasty. Don't look in to their garden to get a "full bum view". The father or mother might work/commute late. The child might have special needs so they get very excited/cheerful of his accomplishments to get him to progress. Keep your nose out of it.

Eminem is your friend. Some totally non dc friendly lyrics should have them scuttling indoors.
They won't want Rufus discussing shagging his dm at nursery will they??

chill out it will be pissing down soon

Then they’ll probably embrace it with a rain dance. Seriously they danced round and round the garden whooping last week.

There’s nothing wrong with finding Performance Parenting fucking annoying, because it IS fucking annoying 🤷🏻‍♀️ I don’t mind hearing the toddler playing and shouting, but the parents should be more mindful.

I’m currently barely restraining myself from going next door and shoving the yapping fucking Jack Russel right where the sun doesn’t shine of MrsEssexGobOnLegs. It’s a fine run race as to which is more annoying, so I’ll take the two for one approach.

Why would you be angling for a lie in on a Tuesday AM? Anyway it’s every evening

Tuesday is my day off this week. If I thought for a second it would mean a lie in I’d keep my 2 yr old up late playing too :)

My DS needed 11 hours at two years old, so if he slept for an hour at nursery, he'd go to sleep at 9 or so. Not everyone gives their children a bath or shower at night either, DS often had a shower in the morning, and not everyday.

YABU and nasty. Don't look in to their garden to get a "full bum view". The father or mother might work/commute late. The child might have special needs so they get very excited/cheerful of his accomplishments to get him to progress. Keep your nose out of it.

I’m their neighbour I can’t help getting a bum view if I look out the window. I also vaguely know them to say hello too and neither of your explanations are correct.

They are completely ridiculous and CF.

All my neighbours are reasonable and the gardens get quiet around 7pm. Some of us even manage to have kids staying outside later without disturbing the neighbourhood. You just go for quieter activities.

"dancing in a circle and clapping hands" is so unnecessary, your neighbours are complete idiots.

If you want to make noise, go somewhere else!

I do like the Eminem suggestion - It's tricky when your own kids can hear it though but still worth it. That, and barbecuing sardines with a fan blowing in their direction.

If it was 22:30pm and no signs of them winding it down, then yes that would get irritating, but 20:45?! I don't see the issue. We have a 4 & 2 year old, currently trying to get them into an earlier bedtime routine in prep for September, but throughout the summer they have lots of late nights, enjoying the late evening sun, spending time with daddy who's been at work all day, and hopefully giving me a lie in as a reward for letting them stay up! They're probably just making the most of the lighter evenings, and the precious time they have with their toddler, before they get to the age where they need to be in bed by a certain time to get up for school. Our road is a row of 8 houses, 6 of which have kids from preschool age up to about 8/9yrs and some evenings, almost every driveway is empty until 8-9pm and when people get back the kids often burn off some steam in the garden first. Little boy next door is often outside playing football until 9pm. I don't see the issue?