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To ask if you are a remainer, are you voting on Thursday?

349 replies

ethelfleda · 20/05/2019 13:05

And if so, how will you vote?
I want to vote tactically against the Brexit Party so I am thinking LibDems. But knowing mn and it’s very politically engaged (not to mention intelligent) posters, I thought I would put this out there Wink

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DarlingNikita · 21/05/2019 15:32

toomuch, you make good points.

Motheroffourdragons · 21/05/2019 16:21

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serenoa · 21/05/2019 16:32

Well, that was interesting! I went to the Remain Voter website before responding here. I'm a Labour Party member but I'd decided to vote Lib Dem for this election because staying in the EU is our best future. The Remain Voter site says the Lib Dems look secure for one seat - this is East Midlands constituency.

The party that wins the first seat then has their remaining number of votes halved, according to the D'Hont method of counting in use. So, the website suggests that a vote for the Greens looks to be the best option to elect another remain party and keep the Brexit party out of East Midlands.

I think I've just changed my mind, and will vote Greens. I just hope Remain Voter's polling estimates are correct. I'll keep checking that site before I go out to vote.

The EU will be electing a new Commission President this summer, and the current polling suggests that Frans Timmermans is the strong front runner. This is interesting, to me at least, because Timmermans is a socialist, at the opposite end of the political spectrum to Juncker. Given the power that the Commission exerts in the EU (too much IMHO) a socialist as President could signal a drastic change of political policy by the EU. Socialist parties are offering some interesting green and sustainable people-orientated policy initiatives which may get to be debated by the Parliament if Timmermans is in charge.

This could well be the start of the change we so much need by the EU, this is no time to walk away from it. Even the far right parties in power in Austria, Hungary and Italy aren't doing that. If Jeremy Corbyn was actually a remainer he'd be supporting proposed policy initiatives because they align so well with the last, and the next, party GE manifesto. But he isn't a remainer, he's not the principled politician I voted for twice as party leader, either.

The thought has just occurred to me that if all we potential Lib Dem voters switch to Green on Thursday, might we spoil Lib Dems' chance of winning that first seat? Myself, I haven't been polled so that wouldn't apply to me. How long do I have to stay up for to hear the results???

DontMakeMeShushYou · 21/05/2019 16:36

I think I've just changed my mind, and will vote Greens. I just hope Remain Voter's polling estimates are correct. I'll keep checking that site before I go out to vote.

They won't be correct if people who had decided how to vote then go and vote differently. It is really only the undecided who should follow the advice on RemainVoter.

DontMakeMeShushYou · 21/05/2019 16:47

How long do I have to stay up for to hear the results???

Until 10pm on the 26th! You might be better heading to bed!

RockinHippy · 21/05/2019 16:51

Yes & still watching the remainer advice in our area for updates, but Greens or LibDem (🤢) dependent on who is the most likely to win

WorriedMutha · 21/05/2019 18:05

Someone said above that their DM had been counting postal votes and they were 75% Brexit. Surely she's mistaken. Postal votes are counted with the general count aren't they? How could anyone know where the votes have been cast.

CloudyForest · 21/05/2019 18:22

This 'remainvoter.com' or whatever the website is sounds absolutely bonkers tbqh. A party's seat is only secure if the people who were planning to vote for them actually do so. So, advice telling people to vote for others will just put them off, splitting the remain vote.

Me thinks this website is linked in some way to the green party.

Figmentofmyimagination · 21/05/2019 18:28

Libdem. Fed up with my vote being misinterpreted as wanting TM to ‘get on with it’. At least the libdems have always been absolutely clear on this, all credit to them.

Figmentofmyimagination · 21/05/2019 18:31

The Libdems stopped a lot of nasties that came out of the woodwork as soon as the conservatives had an overall majority eg the Trade Union Act.

PantsyMcPantsface · 21/05/2019 18:36

Lib dem as I generally tend to vote anyhow. In general elections I vote tactically as we're a marginal.

I'm now at the point where I just think the whole shitfest is just going to lurch on from one side to the other for years though as no one has a bloody clue and whatever will be will be - but I'll still go use my vote regardless

PantsyMcPantsface · 21/05/2019 18:39

I'd quite like to vote for the whole lot of Farage's latest bunch and the UKIPers to be shoved in a gunge tank 1990s Saturday morning kids TV style with a lot of banana milkshake dropped on them from above though.

NeverSayFreelance · 21/05/2019 18:49

I'm voting. Just annoyed that they've moved my polling station to my old secondary school 😂 I wasn't looking for a trip down memory lane haha!

EllebellyBeeblebrox · 21/05/2019 19:07

Going for Lib Dem, would usually go with Labour but I'm in such a Tory/Leave area the LD's have more of a shot.

78percentLindt · 21/05/2019 19:11

Hi
The remainvoter website is really only for those who were undecided.I have been libdem/labour /green voter in the past , so I am following their advice for the East and will probably vote Green again. I think the regular Lib dem supporters need to stay voting that way.
However the gender identity stances of both Green and LD annoy me!

Marchinupandownagain · 21/05/2019 19:23

Of course. Tactical voting all the way. I usually vote LibDem anyway - but this constituency is deep blue, sadly.

@BrillyPribble: honestly now is not the time to be purist.

ethelfleda · 21/05/2019 22:33

Blue area here too. Sigh.
Very much hoping that enough remainers will vote on Thursday!

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emotionalaffair · 22/05/2019 08:22

The polling looks awful. Voting labour is a wasted vote if you're a staunch remainer. We need to send a message by voting for remain parties as a big win for the brexit party will kill a second referendum stone dead.

MustardScreams · 22/05/2019 08:28

I’m dreading the results, any kind of win for the fascists is just going to be horrendous.

The Tories have a lot to bloody answer for.

MulticolourMophead · 22/05/2019 08:45

I'd quite like to vote for the whole lot of Farage's latest bunch and the UKIPers to be shoved in a gunge tank 1990s Saturday morning kids TV style with a lot of banana milkshake dropped on them from above though.

Now, that I'd certainly support 😁

DizzyPigeon · 22/05/2019 08:55

The remainvoter website for Scotland doesn't make sense.

It suggests that there will be one more remain seat of you vote lib dems.

It also says that the parties voted in will be in exactly the same numbers.

DizzyPigeon · 22/05/2019 08:57

I suspect that wasn't clear.

This is what I mean.

To ask if you are a remainer, are you voting on Thursday?
To ask if you are a remainer, are you voting on Thursday?
Sakura7 · 22/05/2019 09:17

I think remain tactical voting websites could do more harm than good.

Lib Dems are the most prominent anti-Brexit party by some distance, and they have the momentum now after their performance in the local elections. If you're in England, it's a no brainer to vote for them IMO, and also in Scotland and Wales if you don't support the nationalist parties.

Will be interesting to see what happens in NI. I really hope a decent number of remain supporting unionists will switch from DUP to Alliance or even UUP, but I'll try not to get my hopes up.

Trillis · 22/05/2019 09:22

If anyone is interested, I've just noticed that there is a live brexit debate about to start between farage and vince cable. It's being hosted by the daily telegraph and is on their website.