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Theresa May stepping down just announced

326 replies

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/05/2019 15:10

TM has agreed to start the process of leaving office in June. I have mixed feelings and am very worried about the future of this country. AIBU to think this is going to make the situation worse and possibly lead to no deal Brexit?

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Peregrina · 16/05/2019 18:04

Yes, I agree with that - at a time of stability, May would have been a perfectly competent if uninspiring PM.

onalongsabbatical · 16/05/2019 18:47

I loathe and detest Tories but I'd settle for Hammond and found myself warming to Penny Mordaunt this week (shoot me now). Anyone but Bojo or any other of the detestable ERGs.

Alsohuman · 16/05/2019 18:51

I’m not a Tory either but I could stomach Amber Rudd.

FeminismandWomensFights · 16/05/2019 18:53

I am really worried that they’ll all be distracted by a leadership race when actually we need MPs to focus on this total shitshow that Cameron has left us with.

onalongsabbatical · 16/05/2019 18:57

Yes they'll be distracted, but can it possibly get any worse? You think them not being distracted is going to get us anywhere at all? You are more optimistic than I!

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/05/2019 18:59

Walkaround
I agree yet so many heads are in the sand. Do people just not believe what you’re saying? Deluded people like my mother think it I’ll be fine. Brexiteer no less. We were fine in the war apparently so we will be fine now. Yeh the insta gen deffo will be fine and not calling 999 every 5 mins because KFC has run out of chicken and the supermarket shelves half empty.

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SpoonBlender · 16/05/2019 19:26

We would never have had May if the referendum hadn't happened - she was the only one of the tory candidates who didn't take a rapid step backwards when they were selecting a new PM for the position of "scapegoat" after Call-Me-Dave fucked off. We'd still have Dave.

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 16/05/2019 19:31

Not much to celebrate is it. Ive got no love for TM. However who do we get in her place Amber Rudd.

justarandomtricycle · 16/05/2019 19:38

So we have the Conservative Party that if you vote for them will frustrate Brexit and keep Corbyn out

You have Labour who have a decades-long committed brexiteer who's so "principled" and "authentic" he promises he'll frustrate Brexit

Liberal Democrats are crypto-fascists with a sense of humour "people's vote, ahaha"

You have the Greens who describe us as "non-men"

...and an assortment of other parties.

I'm going to pick one of the other parties, at least I can deprive all of the shit politicians of the main parties of my vote.

Provincialbelle · 16/05/2019 19:43

Justarandom has it right. Oddly enough the economy has been fine these past 2 years, proving again we need politicians a lot less than they think we do.

Walkaround · 16/05/2019 20:09

Provincialbelle - the economy is currently "doing well" because of all the money spent on stockpiling in preparation for Brexit. Businesses cannot cope forever with constantly moving goalposts. Meanwhile, schools, councils, social care, safeguarding, legal aid, health services, etc, etc, are not doing well at all and the harm done by this will last an incredibly long time. We do need politicians that can actually do their job, and quite urgently. Why people think the harm done by several years of political and administrative constipation will be seen immediately in the economy, I do not understand, anyway.

It's just silly to argue Brexit won't have an effect on the economy on the basis it hasn't obviously done so yet, given the fact that we have not Brexited, yet. Fuck knows what will happen over the long term if and when we do, but I have no faith in our politicians getting a good deal for us however we leave the EU, as they have zero track record of getting a good deal on anything that I can think of. Better to stay in the EU, imo, where we actually have a reasonable deal, than to surrender our country to the sole control of our home grown politicians, who have shown themselves to be uniquely incompetent. They are clearly not up to coping with the monumental constitutional change that is Brexit and will make a massive and costly balls up of it.

MulticolourMophead · 16/05/2019 20:16

But no, leavers would rather have Nigel and his band of fascists.
Oh, and a fucking blue passport.

The EU specifications for passports does include a blue option, but the government of the day decided to got for the burgundy option. It's not an EU decision here.

MulticolourMophead · 16/05/2019 20:20

Oh, I may vote Lib Dem deoending on the options for my area, a true blue one

My ex never ever voted. Except for the referendum. Of course, he's a racist, homophobic misogynistic nightmare, so it fits.

Alsohuman · 16/05/2019 20:21

Who gives a shit what colour their passport is? Seriously.

Langrish · 16/05/2019 20:29

Wtf is the bloody difficult woman doing announcing it in advance? There we go then, it’ll be voted down because true to form they’ll all be voting now not for what’s best for the country but what they perceive as best for the Conservative party and their jobs.
I don’t want Brexit, it’s complete collective insanity, but this deal is better than no deal and she’s just killed any chance of it getting through stone dead.

PV is looking increasingly unlikely with Johnson circling vulture like and no deal increasingly likely.

Ok, back to shops: pasta, rice, milk, tuna .....

Disappearedtothe80s · 16/05/2019 20:45

I could almost cope with Jeremy Hunt as PM. Just.

Marilynmansonsthermos · 16/05/2019 20:58

I am constantly amazed and staggered, at the complete and utter mess the conservatives have made of our country..

Provincialbelle · 16/05/2019 21:00

@Walkaround - I agree with some but not all of what you say. Business needs stability. Having a constipated government ironically provides this. Having a government constantly tinkering does not. Hence although there is a lot of theoretical uncertainty with Brexit, until it happens (if it does) people can carry on as normal whilst trying to prepare for whatever form of Brexit we get. I voted remain primarily because of the stability point. But note the disasters predicted haven’t happened (nor will the glorious sunlit uplands happen if we get a hard Brexit).

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/05/2019 22:46

AlsoHuman
Passport colour is a big thing apparently. Shame the government of the day didn’t just give us the blue option then. Probably wouldn’t be in this mess. But bs sells newspapers. Crisps flavours and banana shapes spring to mind as past scandals.

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Springwalk · 16/05/2019 23:11

A huge tsunami is growing, expanding and gathering energy.
Old politics is dead in the water.
There was only one chance to deliver integrity, honesty and trust. Theresa May along with all the remainder MPs showed utter contempt for the democratic referendum, and the electorate.

The two party system is over whoever replace TM. It is now irrelevant.
Parliament really gave lost something absolutely crucial in their undemocratic arrogance, the people. They are long gone.

So don’t worry about who is going to be the leader of labour or conservative parties, they are dead and buried.

New politics is here and there is now no going back.

Remainers, you now only have yourselves to blame for what happens next. You should have been honourable and respected the result as any decent, honest human being would, but you didn’t, and now you have unleashed something far far worse. It’s on your heads

Quintella · 16/05/2019 23:19

Remainers, you now only have yourselves to blame for what happens next. You should have been honourable and respected the result as any decent, honest human being would, but you didn’t, and now you have unleashed something far far worse. It’s on your heads

What the fuck is this imbecilic shit?

The government are the only ones who've had anything to do with how things have unfolded. So take your threats and bugger off.

So.fucking.bored of moronic brexiters blaming the current situation on Remain voters for not being good little boys and girls and agreeing that Brexit is all simply spiffing.

Quintella · 16/05/2019 23:19

Same creepy fuckers every time.

Walkaround · 16/05/2019 23:27

Provincialbelle - constipated government does not provide stability because constipation cannot last forever - it either kills you or the shit has to come out, and the longer you are constipated, the worse the shit storm in the end. Government remaining constipated while the pressure builds up inside it and then explodes out in the shit storm of no deal does not provide stability. Shitting out a deal you have told the entire world is a bad deal which your far right will continue to try to scupper, does not provide stability. Forming a weak government because your country is as divided as your own political party, does not provide stability. Ignoring massive social issues because you are too constipated by Brexit to deal with anything else, does not provide stability. Revoking Article 50 after years of pissing off your EU neighbours and the whole country does not really provide stability. Stability isn't really an option, tbh. Business is just waiting to see what type of instability we end up with.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 16/05/2019 23:40

We voted to leave. So hopefully we will get a new leader who will actually do what we voted for. I think Boris would do it but any Brexiteer will be fine. Lets get back to democracy.

Walkaround · 16/05/2019 23:43

Springwalk - don't be a twat. Since when does anyone shut up about their political opinions when they don't get the party they want in a general election? Did UKIP shut up about its opinions until it got its way? Did UKIP say the referendum would be a one and only opportunity to give an opinion on the EU? Nope, it didn't - it suggested another referendum when it thought it might lose th first one. It would never have given up. So why the desperation to shut everyone else down now? What is democratic about not being allowed to continue to have an opinion?