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Theresa May stepping down just announced

326 replies

Mummyoflittledragon · 16/05/2019 15:10

TM has agreed to start the process of leaving office in June. I have mixed feelings and am very worried about the future of this country. AIBU to think this is going to make the situation worse and possibly lead to no deal Brexit?

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CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook · 18/05/2019 06:59

I have a first class degree & now work freelance as childcare massively outweighs wages, in huge debt and can't see how to keep my head out of the oven

I'm so sorryFlowers I'm where you are, ironically at a time when my children are older and less of a financial burden. I'm sick and get no benefits. 6 years ago I was on benefits and a simple mistake ended up with me being sanctioned which resulted in
me becoming suicidal. So although I'm entitled to some 'help', everything I've heard about UC gives me panic attacks just at the thought. I'd rather starve. Because I don't think I could tolerate one more cruel member of JC staff treating me like shit, and assuming, without having to provide justification that I'm somehow cheating the system for being too ill to attend one appointment and leaving me with nothing to feed my children with except the cheapest mince and corned beef, and ruinning my mental health.

That sanction forced me into massive debt which I'm still paying for years later. At my age I feel I shouldn't be in the state I'm in. Sometimes the oven looks appealing to me too. I can only say hang in there and perhaps talk to somebody about your debts. A debt resolution centre might help. Citizens advice can refer you.Flowers

Iggly · 18/05/2019 06:59

Please answer @user1497997754 do you think children should starve

I’ll add, I was one of those children. Mum was a single parent, she was mentally unwell and struggled to work due to lack of support.

I ended up in care.

By your measure, I think @user1497997754 you think I should have been left to starve.

user1497997754 · 18/05/2019 07:07

I was a single parent....I have been unwell....I went to work.....I rented out a room in my house....I did 3 jobs....I are cheap food...I bought second hand clothes and furniture....I chose to have 1 child because I could not afford anymore. I did not sit around moaning about how hard my life was I got off my arise and did something about it...How do you think years ago people fed there children there was no fucking benefits then....so fed up of entitled people moaning about how terrible the benefit system is and how they should be getting more....don't have more children then

Iggly · 18/05/2019 07:09

Do you think children should starve? Still not answered.

Lweji · 18/05/2019 08:03

Sure you did.

It's great when children and adults starve.

Children did starve, were sold to slavery, lived in the streets, were separated from their parents. Great times

Iggly · 18/05/2019 08:16

People are all mouth when it comes to slagging off people who have the misfortune of needing to claim benefits because “they managed it” Hmm

Demonstrates complete failure to think and a huge empathy void.

averylongtimeago · 18/05/2019 08:22

What did people do before benefits?

Well having done some family history I can tell you.
Great great grandparents- died in the workhouse, separated from each other and their children.

Grandmother: raised 7 children as a single parent after being widowed. She took in washing, and survived on charity and handouts from other relatives. Pre NHS, one of her children died as a child as doctors cost too much.

Is this what we should return too?
Some seem to think so.

Lweji · 18/05/2019 08:58

I'd say it is rather stupid to want to go back to those times.

MonkeyToesOfDoom · 18/05/2019 09:16

User many numbers is either a troll, and I have reported them, or an absolute fucking idiot.

If they are real, they should look hard in the mirror and realise they're exactly what's wrong with this country. They breed jeremy Kyle exploitation shows, they cause bigoted news paper reports, they are the target audience for the hate and vitriol spread by farage, they caused universal credit and mass poverty and starvation.

If people like that didn't exist, the poverty porn and cruelty inherent in the universal credit system would have supporters and wouldn't exist.

MarniLou · 18/05/2019 09:36

I agree with you Bunsygirl

I strongly believe that we need universal subsidised childcare. However, I also strongly believe that we need to do something about the numbers of parents “fucking off” and not taking responsibility for their kids. Why should the ones that don’t “fuck off” have to pay for feckless parents.

And even when they are made to pay, £211.00 per month for two DC's, from a man earning in a professional job (but claiming for his partners child who lived with them half of the time) just isn't enough to bring up two boys. £211.00 didn't even pay the costs of their school dinners once at secondary school.
CSA ineffective. I can remember trying to arrange collection of arrears. The CSA staff member told me all my EXH could afford was £6.00 a month - she added ' but I've tried to phone him and can't get an answer'... To which I responded ... ' no you won't, he's gone skiing for a fortnight!'

Men do choose to have children, then are allowed to walk away with little accountability.

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2019 10:09

User1497997754
I am disabled and too ill to work. I wasn’t ill until dd was 3 and only have one child, who we could easily afford. I spend most of my time in bed or flopped on the sofa. Some of the time I literally cannot move because my body has run out of energy and is just absolutely it keeping me alive. Good job I have a dh to support dd and me.

Do you think if we didn’t have dh that dd and I should starve??

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Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2019 10:12

If this sky news article is anything to go by, BJ will next PM. Almost 1 in 4 grass roots members support him. 🤯

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noodlenosefraggle · 18/05/2019 10:40

It depends on Whether he has the support of MP's though as to whether he can go forward to the grass roots Tories. I don't think he's popular with them. I was listening to someone who worked for him at the spectator. They said he is all big ideas but is very good at getting a good team around him to do all the work while he gets all the glory. So we'll have the leaders of the 2 major parties being nothing but figureheads. Momentum runs the LP and pulls JC's strings and BJ bumbles about getting laughs while people we don't know make all the decisions.

ralfeesmum · 18/05/2019 10:55

Talk about 'The Long Goodbye'!

Now for a suitable successor......I hereby nominate Chris Grayling. (Well, No. 10 is about the only Government job he hasn't trashed so far.)

Mummyoflittledragon · 18/05/2019 11:04

noodle
I agree with what you are saying and hope this will come to pass.

Chris Grayling..... I agree. Fantastic bloke. After all TM has “complete confidence” in him. I think the job description goes “Must be able to fuck up this country completely”. On balance I think BJ possibly still wins by a smidge.

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Praguemum · 19/05/2019 02:43

Oh dear. I'd say you're all fucked. Sorry, being smug as we live in NZ. Grin

SnipSnop · 19/05/2019 03:18

NZ is dull as fuck

SnipSnop · 19/05/2019 03:20

I mean lovely in its own way, but provincial and oh so dull.

Langrish · 19/05/2019 08:58

Give me lovely, provincial and oh so dull any day over what this country is likely to become if Farage, Johnson or indeed Corbyn get their hands on the tiller.
(Yes, I know Farage is only standing in Euro elections - for now)

Clavinova · 19/05/2019 09:01

Oh dear.I'd say you're all fucked.Sorry, being smug as we live in NZ.

NZ has chlorinated chicken! Grin

Langrish · 19/05/2019 09:06

As will we very soon 🐔

Dongdingdong · 19/05/2019 09:09

As will we very soon

I hate the thought of chlorinated chicken as much as the next person, but at this moment in time this is pure conjecture.

Langrish · 19/05/2019 09:20

Dongdingdong

Indeed, as things presently stand, conjecture it is. Rather like the £350 m each week to the NHS that turned out to be absolute bollox. Oh hang on, that wasn’t conjecture was it, that was a deliberate lie.

So yes, you may be right, conjecture it may be for now. If we leave with no deal, it will become reality before you can say KFC as we wave goodbye to countless consumer protections.

Clavinova · 19/05/2019 10:12

Langrish
It seems you wouldn't want to live in NZ after all.

£350 m each week to the NHS that turned out to be absolute bollox.

Depends how you look at it - the EU Commission want to phase out the budget rebate and the government have already announced increased spending on the NHS to £394 million extra a week by 2023/24.

Dowser · 26/05/2019 13:26

So what about Dominic Raab then?