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.. to be disappointed that a racist received a standing ovation!

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NannaNoodleman · 13/05/2019 08:55

Danny Baker: Standing ovation at first show since Twitter storm www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-48249637

What is wrong with people. He showed his true inherent racism but people still believe he's a top bloke!

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SoupDragon · 13/05/2019 12:23

Does he use it?

Given I am neither friend or family, I have no idea.

Scarcelyburnt · 13/05/2019 12:24

Danny's business is to know about current events and the news. He would have to be totally useless at his job if he was not on top of current affairs. He is lying if he says that he was not aware Meghan is mixed race or that it was her baby - a mixed race baby. It's not everyday that the Royal Family welcomes a non-white spouse of a major member of the family. Prince Harry, Diana's sound. Everything about Harry's and Meghan's union is a significant milestone for the British press. So if Danny knew nothing about any of it, one had to wonder whether he is fit for the job he purports to do.

Suiker · 13/05/2019 12:25

Even though he tweeted a racist photo?

No, he tweeted a photo that could be interpreted as racist.

At the simplest level, the original photo almost certainly wasn't racist. The original photo (taken in the 1920s or so) was most likely intended as something humorous, and not linked to racism.

It only becomes racist, 90 years (or so) later, when you link it with mixed race babies, and that the intent is for the photo to make the link with MM, mixed race babies and chimpanzees.

IAmTheChosenOne · 13/05/2019 12:25

Do you expect him to not work OP?
How do you expect him to fund himself?

Lifecraft · 13/05/2019 12:25

Even though he tweeted a racist photo?

The photo itself is not racist. It's a photo, of 2 humans holding a chimp dressed as a human. That's it. What makes it racist, is the context it's used in. Tweeting it to mock the parents of a mixed race child would be racist. Sending it it to David Attenborough on a birthday card wouldn't be.

But if you don't know the child is mixed race, then the context is missing. Or even if you do know, but are not sending it for that purpose, but sending it to mock the role in society of the new royal arrival, as in "even a chimp could do his job", then that's not racist either.

Context is everything, and none of us know that. People are dressing their opinions up as fact.

LadyRannaldini · 13/05/2019 12:27

Is it racist for a member of the Royal Family to send out messages written on bananas? Had the same bananas been thrown at a football match they would be considerered racists.

You need to understand racism in all it's forms before you comment

One assumes you refer to a particular interpretation of racism,ie yours! I was once told by someone who had 'been on a course' that only white people can be racist, that was when I stopped considering it at all.

NoSauce · 13/05/2019 12:27

Well given his wording was “royal baby leaves hospital” the photo was racist.

Thymeout · 13/05/2019 12:28

He did say that when it was pointed out to him. Immediately took it down. Said it was 'a curdling moment'. But he was speaking to the press immediately after the BBC phone call, when they'd called him a racist and wouldn't let him explain. So 'fuck you'.

Stupid, yes, to lose his temper. But racist? No.

DeadWife · 13/05/2019 12:29

For those going on about his 'intelligence' can you provide an example of it ?

All I can see on his Twitter is this latest debacle which doesn't exactly have high IQ stamped all over it and lots of banal football commentary.

He also mentions being 'literally' thrown under the bus.

Sorry just not seeing it.

cheeseypuff · 13/05/2019 12:30

No YANBU - it was my first reaction when I read that on the BBC website this morning. It's the kind of behaviour that reinforces the idea that people in the public eye can get away with pretending they "made a mistake". Not only is he racist, he's also a liar as he claimed not to know which royal baby/ whose baby he was tweeting about.
That's right up there with "the dog ate my homework" as far as I'm concerned.
Just because a bunch of people who had already paid money to see him speak gave him a standing ovation doesn't mean that there aren't sensible people out there who see through his excuses.

feistymumma · 13/05/2019 12:33

I agree with you OP, sadly that is the reality of living in the UK today - he was racist. How come the thought to publish that photo never ever crossed his mind when Kate and Will had their babies but it crossed his mind for Meghan and Harry.

MrsBethel · 13/05/2019 12:36

What Lifecraft said.

People guessing his intent was to send it as a racial slur are guessing. And it doesn't seem like a good guess to me.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 13/05/2019 12:36

The "faux ignorance" thing which always gets trotted out on here worries me a bit

Granted there are times when it clearly IS "faux", like experienced broadcaster Danny Baker claiming not to know which couple had just had a baby - but since we can't get inside others' minds, who's to say what someone's aware of and what they're not?

Since talking over things with others is how we learn, isn't it a bit unfortunate to suggest so often that a question = faux ignorance = racism?

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NannaNoodleman · 13/05/2019 12:37

^Do you expect him to not work OP?
How do you expect him to fund himself?^

Are you joking!! That's not my concern.

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HappyHammy · 13/05/2019 12:39

Harry dressed as a Nazi, that was awful judgement.

Thymeout · 13/05/2019 12:40

Scarcely Have you ever listened to one of DB's programmes? It's not his job to know about current affairs and the news, any more than it's Ant & Dec's job.

Iam Last time he was sacked, Chris Evans lent him a lot of money which he paid back in full. It's part of DB's philosophy of life to live in the present. One of the reasons he coped so brilliantly with his cancer. Made a joke to lighten the moment to put the doctor at ease when he was giving him the diagnosis.

Scarcelyburnt · 13/05/2019 12:41

Oh so now, racism all lies with what the perpetrator intended and nothing about how its perceived by the victim(s) and the impact it has on them? There you go then, racists and racism are the winners. "I didn't mean to" and that solves it. You've gotta shake your head. I can bet you these excuses are not being made by the vast majority of non-white folks, who I am certain would have felt the sting of racism by his so-called funny tweet.

Scarcelyburnt · 13/05/2019 12:43

Thymeout, I have and in order for his programmes to be relevant and interesting or funny (if that what he calls them), then yes he must stay on top of current events.

HBStowe · 13/05/2019 12:43

HbStowe....I'm pleased he didn't make that connection. I think it's a horrible connection.

Of course it’s a horrible connection, but being ignorant of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist! It just means that people like you (and apparently your son) will blindly turn an eye to acts of racism.

Don’t you see how in this situation your ignorance is leading you to support someone who was racist, and not the victims of racism? Is that the message you want your son to internalise?

IAmTheChosenOne · 13/05/2019 12:46

@NannaNoodleman

Not your concern? No it isnt you concern if someone goes to work and does his other job. So get off your high horse and stop with the lynch mob mentality. He apologised, he's sacked. Im not sure what else you expect?

We have this ridiculous palaver every single time someone vaguely in the media does something erroneous. Even if they dont get convicted they are supposed to go and hide in a corner and never carry on with their career. Trial by witch hunt is so very 16th century.

TabbyMumz · 13/05/2019 12:51

HbStowe.. I think you are wrong. I didn't make the connection, never heard if it Is be more worried about myself if I did make the connection. It's a horrific connection, and one people shouldn't be making. I'm not in the wrong here? This connection should be non existent, not advertised. And it doesn't mean I'm blindly turning an eye to an act of racism. What rubbish. How on earth does my ignorance of this horrid connection support someone to be racist. Absolute twaddle.

NoSauce · 13/05/2019 12:51

People guessing his intent was to send it as a racial slur are guessing. And it doesn't seem like a good guess to me

And you’re guessing it wasn’t. Given that it’s common knowledge that racists refer to black people as monkeys I don’t think I’m wrong in guessing he was being racist. That and the pathetic excuse of an apology that followed.

RiversDisguise · 13/05/2019 12:56

Literally thrown under the bus is funny

WalkingDownMadison · 13/05/2019 12:59

People still on a Mumsnet witchhunt against a public individual who doesn't meet their standards of saying and doing the perfect thing all the time?

What a surprise Hmm.

WalkingDownMadison · 13/05/2019 12:59

I'd have given him an ovation too, for the sheer nastiness of people attacking him (they don't see this irony of course).

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