.. to be disappointed that a racist received a standing ovation!

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Danny Baker: Standing ovation at first show since Twitter storm www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-48249637

What is wrong with people. He showed his true inherent racism but people still believe he's a top bloke!

I think what happened is that he shared the photo as a commentary on a mixed race couple having a baby, and realised the stupidity of it quite quickly and hashed up his apology. I suspect he isn't consciously racist but that the tweet showed his subconscious mind, and it's not pretty.

HbStowe.. I think you are wrong. I didn't make the connection, never heard if it Is be more worried about myself if I did make the connection. It's a horrific connection, and one people shouldn't be making. I'm not in the wrong here? This connection should be non existent, not advertised. And it doesn't mean I'm blindly turning an eye to an act of racism. What rubbish. How on earth does my ignorance of this horrid connection support someone to be racist. Absolute twaddle.

Because you’re excusing someone who did make that connection. You are choosing the side of someone who posted a racist image over the side of the people victimised by that image. And the only reason you are willing and able to do that is because you refuse to accept the fact that for hundreds of years, racists have compared black people to monkeys to oppress and dehumanise them.

It would be great if this connection didn’t exist - but it does, because it’s one racists make all the time. You can’t make it go away by sticking your fingers in your ears and inventing convoluted excuses for the racists who make these statements. You can only make it go away by challenging it and by making racists face real consequences (like losing their jobs).

People still on a Mumsnet witchhunt against a public individual who doesn't meet their standards of saying and doing the perfect thing all the time?

Bit of a chasm between ‘not saying or doing the right thing all the time’ and ‘saying and doing racist things’, isn’t there?

People still on a Mumsnet witchhunt against a public individual who doesn't meet their standards of saying and doing the perfect thing all the time?

Are you for real?

Want to experience some awful racism? Live where I live and send your kids to school where I do and you will get an idea. By the way, I'm white English. Racism is wrong period. I think the bigger issue is racism seemingly only being treated in a very one sided manner. Danny Baker comes across as a drunken moron most of the time anyway, but racism in all its form needs to be addressed and until that happens zero will change. Curse Danny Baker for his part, but so much more needs to be done!

I've never seen anyone else make a joke about someone who had just had their first baby
Lack of respect for anyone, not just the Royals

but that wasn't his intent to offend
Ah, but it was his intent to offend - he was having a laugh at someone else's expense; in this case, a nasty dig at posh/upper class folk. He just stupidly didn't think of who else he might be offending, nor that anyone else could be offended.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that his tweet was massively playing into the nastiness and outright racial hatred that we see all too often.

HbStowe. Who am I excusing? Danny Baker? Have I said that? No I haven't. You have made that up in your head entirely. If, and I say if, people have compared black people to monkeys for hundreds of years then I and many others have been totally oblivious to this link. And I'm glad of it.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that his tweet was massively playing into the nastiness and outright racial hatred that we see all too often.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that you have no idea if that's true or not. It might be, it might not. Unless you have some telepathic link with Danny Baker, you don't know what he was thinking or his motives.

You are fully entitled to hold the opinion that it was deliberate racism, but an opinion is all it is. Not a fact.

And I'm glad of it.

I guess it takes all sorts, but I would not myself be glad to be so secure in my own privilege that I refused to acknowledge racism when it was staring me in the face.

TFBundy, sometimes people slip up. Also, he was probably banking on people saying he couldn't possibly have meant it that way.

As for the blsvk people, monkey link Danny Baker admits that he is well aware of the link.

Importantly he claims that he always uses monkey images for royal births. Yet there is no evidence of this. There is evidence that he has only used it for this particular royal birth.

He can fool some people but he isn't fooling everyone and certainly not black people who sees this for what it is. Let the institutionsl racism continue, with many a white person rushing to defend him as this wonderful person who is above reproach. Until some of us call out these nonsense, structural racism will continue.

It's truly incredible the way some MN users will do mental gymnastics to excuse racism.

People still on a Mumsnet witchhunt against a public individual who doesn't meet their standards of saying and doing the perfect thing all the time?

I see no witchunt. I see the calling out of racist micro-aggressions, but no witchhunt.

If, and I say if, people have compared black people to monkeys for hundreds of years then I and many others have been totally oblivious to this link.

Do you live under a rock or something?

Sorry, I’ll correct myself. Everyone adult in the UK knows who Meghan Markle is, unless they live in a cave or are deliberately ignorant of all current affairs/popular culture/big news items.

Nonsense. I read several newspapers regularly and will skip at least trivial articles about the royal family, and I quite like the Royal family. DCs are a mine of information if you want to know about most current affairs but would know sod all about the royals except the important stuff.

Out of touch with irrelevant things Heat magazine, the Daily Mail and Good Morning Britain consider crucial would describe a lot of people who are otherwise interested in current affairs, I expect.

We can’t know for sure that everyone knows who Meghan is ( even though I’m pretty sceptical tbf if that ) but that doesn’t really matter. Danny Baker does know who she is and that she’s mixed race and given that he was highly insensitive to post that photo whether he admits to being racist or not.

He should have thought twice how it would come across and been mortified. But he didn’t, he carried on regardless.

@IAmTheChosenOne I disappointed that a racist got a standing ovation. I expect people not to applaud a racist.

@NoSauce it’s not a racist photo, it’s a monkey dressed in a suit.

Yep, you would expect a professional broadcaster, in radio of all places where courting controversy is a fine art, and at the BBC of all places which is particularly prone to PC hysteria, to be acutely aware of the implications of the things he says and does.

I do take issue with the idea everyone keeps up with the royal family if they're interested in current affairs because that seems silly and is very obviously not true, but that is a side issue about a more general comment.

With the words attached “royal baby leaves hospital” it absolutely is a racist photo when said baby is mixed face ffs.

He can fool some people but he isn't fooling everyone and certainly not black people who sees this for what it is

Isn't that a bit racist, speaking for all black people and claiming to know what they are all thinking, as it they weren't capable of independent thought. Even if you are black, you can't speak for all black people.

I'm sure there are black people who are angry and believe it's racist, and some who think it was clumsy but not deliberately racist, and some that have never heard of MM.

Get of your soap box, love .
He meant to compare them to circus animals not anything to do with their colour .
Go find something else to be outraged by

People still on a Mumsnet witchhunt against a public individual who doesn't meet their standards of saying and doing the perfect thing all the time?

Call people hysterical, say they're just on a witch hunt, keep disregarding the racism, keep low level racism normal, minimise, pity the racist for getting disciplined, compare him to others who are far worse...

Absolutely Scarcelyburnt re the erroneous claims.

There are lots of us that see through it who are white as well, me included.

With the words attached “royal baby leaves hospital” it absolutely is a racist photo when said baby is mixed face ffs.

Only if the mixed race bit was the target of the joke. If the joke was meant to be "Here we go, another royal baby, born to do a job a chimp in a suit could do", then it's not racist.

Lifecraft
Nowhere did I write that the tweet was deliberate racism; indeed, I am of the opinion that the original intent wasn't racism.
But anyone who has attended large football matches will have witnessed the nastiness and outright racial hatred (including monkey chants, bananas thrown onto the pitch etc) that I mentioned in my previous post. And that is what I was referring to. Danny Baker's tweet fed right into that mindset.