Which Crime story has shocked you the most?

[JoeyBartonHanson]

So I have just been watching a documentary about Becky watts murder and everything about it was so shocking.

Loads but think JonBenet Ramsey really disturbed me most. Horrendous what happened to that poor girl and seems worse because she was ‘safe’ in bed.

A lot mentioned already.
Also West Mesa body pit. So many dead young women and nobody has a clue about what happened.

Madeline McCann. Strangely, I find myself thinking of her quite often, wondering what happened. And of course, there is the faint possibility that she's still alive somewhere, in which case, what sort of life is she leading?

The one that always got to md is Robert Hanson - the way he'd kidnap and torture women, set them 'free' in the wilderness and then hunt them down like animals. I can't imagine how terrified his poor victims were.

Something that really scares me is the idea that some women have escaped from cellars and basements. They can't be the only ones to have been captured and escaped. So, what other horrors are going on in cellars/attics/rooms?

I remember watching Deadliest women, there were loads on there, but one really got me, I can't remember her name, she had 4 boys and was suffering from post natal psychosis, the doctor told both her and her husband not to have any more children, as her mental state was too fragile and she couldn't cope, and he made her have another one. The fifth child was a little girl, she drowned them all in the bath tub because she thought the devil was trying to take their souls. She did it to save them, even now she is still in a mental unit and they won't cure her for her psychosis because if they do she will realise what she did and be even worse off than she is now. That broke my heart.

Its poor Madeleine birthday today.
Happy Birthday beautiful where evert you are. X

For me it's probably the crimes of serial killer Robert Black. I live in the Scottish Borders and frequently cross the bridge across the Tweed just outside Coldstream where he abducted Susan Maxwell from. I've never crossed the bridge once and not felt incredibly sad and spooked by it. The village of Stow is also close by where he was luckily caught after abducting the local police mans daughter. By chance the local postie noticed the girl go missing after passing a white van parked on the pavement. Thank god at least one child was spared.

Amber tuccaro. Despite 4 people recognising and identifying the mans voice no arrests.

Same for abbie and libby, images and voice recording of the suspect and just nowt.

VampirateQueen Andrea Yates?

Alesha Macphail (Isle of Bute). Her 16-year-old killer brazenly broke into a flat where four adults were sleeping and carried her off without making a sound.

During the trial he tried to blame Alesha's dad's girlfriend - and was so convincing at first, even Alesha's mum thought it might have been true. But he was found guilty, then finally confessed before sentencing.

He's currently appealing his 27 year sentence.

Ed Gein hands down. It’s not as well known nowadays as it happened in the 40’s / 50’s but he inspired Silence of the Lambs.

It was just so weird The murders themselves were one thing but he made masks, belts, trinkets etc out of his victims skin and wore them.

right, i dont want to google Junko so can someone outline it briefly and not grusome-ly so I dont get tempted please?

In 1993 a 16 year old girl called Claire Tiltman cut through an alley in Greenhithe, near Bluewater today.

She was stabbed over 40 tines. It took over 20 years to catch her murderer who had called into the police the day after, was questioned twice and went to her funeral.

Her poor parents died very young, I'm guessing their final years were destroyed by her death.

There is a memorial to her at the entrance of the alley. I drive past it regularly and always say a little word in my head. I just feel it would be awful to forget her.

When WPC Yvonne Fletcher was murdered outside the Embassy I remember her mother saying she feared no one would remember her name. I promised myself I would.

The terrible, horrific chance that were it not for twists of fate and timing that so many children especially wouldn't have met their fates chills me.

To the killers, I hope all your days are filled with fear and pain. And to the women that concealed, hampered or attempted to prevent killers of children being caught, I hope there is a horrific end for you in this life too.

I just watched the story of John and Anne Darwin on youtube. Wow. The bit about being in debt, faking your own death, secret annexe in your house... all kind of believable. But the bit that beggars belief is that they didn't tell their sons. For 5+ years they let their sons think that their father was dead. I wonder if the sons thought that their mother was remarkably undisturbed by their father's death.

DelusionalDog a 16 (I think) year old Japanese girl who turned down a boy at school. He was part of an organised crime group. He and some others abducted her and raped tortured her for 44 days. They think around 100 people knew it was going on - it even happened in one of their houses and the parents did nothing.the police came round and were invited to check the house so they assumed there was no one being held there (ffs).
It has absolutely haunted me. The brutality. The senseless. The injustice of the cause of it.The indifference of so many. The perpetrators got off sickeningly lightly.
It's all I can think about.

The murders commited by Marc Dutroux in Belgium. At the time he was arrested, my parents owned a holiday house in the country side close to the area where he and his accomplices kidnapped young girls. At the time, there were many rumours that not all of the accomplices had been caught and my mum got really scared after I went for a walk on my own during that time on a sathurday afternoon and didnt return at the time she had been expecting me to be back. She had sent out my dad to start looking for me and was very relieved as I walked back into the kitchen. At that time I thought she was excegarating but thinking back, I understand her and feel cold shivers too.

Junko Furuta - I should not have read that, that poor, poor girl, that’s fucking horrific. I honestly feel revolted by what those animals did to her.

I find different shocking for different reasons but don’t tend to be shocked more by a child being murdered. The Bulger murder did shock me though as it’s difficult to believe kids are capable of doing that.

Junko Faruto was shocking for how much she endured and how lenient the sentences were.

I also find it shocking that these people manage to find each other. Like the gang that tortured Junko, friends that killed James, Fred & Rose etc. What are the chances of such evil finding each other and coming together.

There was a doc on a couple of years ago about the Claire Tiltiman case. Her poor parents died young and she was an only child but her friends never ever gave up keeping her memory alive and fighting for justice for her.

Billie Jo Jenkins.. Did her step dad kill her or not? My stepdaughter used to live a few doors down from them in Hastings. I used to give an involuntary shudder when I pushed ds2 past in his pushchair...
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peasenhall_Murder Rose Harsent. The local Baptist minister was tried twice for the murder. He was never found guilty. My late great aunt was a child when It happened and told me all the scandal and gory details. When we drive past I look up at the window and imagine her placing her candle in the window... 😔

I've had family members live near where Fred West lived when he was killing and also near the home albeit years later where Peter Tobin buried the bodies in Margate.

Ted Bundy. I’m watching the ted bundy tapes on Netflix at the moment and it’s shocking he got away with it for so long. Also it’s shocking how woman acted at his trials, like he was a celebrity rather than a serial killer.

Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman. I am the same age as them and it haunts me what happened to them.

There are so many 😟 but for me the one that seemed to shock me most, actually made me gasp as I read about it. A male lodger who babysat the 3 kids while the mum popped out and murdered all the kids, each in a different way and then put their bodies on a spiked fence near the house. It was in the 70's and he's due to get out now.

At the moment it’s Libby Squires murder I can’t get out of my head. And the Delphi case too. How they haven’t caught that monster yet is beyond me. The recent press conference had me hoping the police were onto something but nothing but silence since.