Which Crime story has shocked you the most?

[JoeyBartonHanson]

So I have just been watching a documentary about Becky watts murder and everything about it was so shocking.

*accursed lives, not accused. Damn autocorrect.

Can someone tell me in dumbed down ways what happened in the Junko Furuto case... I’m too scared to google it now but I’m too curious ..

Just tell me the summary :S pweeez

She was a Japanese teenage who was kidnapped and tortured over a period of time by a gang of delinquents.

From Wikipedia;

"Approximately 100 people knew about Junko Furuta's captivity, but either did nothing about it or themselves participated in the torture and murder. Most of the participants were friends of the teenage boys, who were low-ranking members of the Yakuza."

So it was a scandal, not just because of the horrific details of the brutality (really do not google) but because the suggestion of a gang connection intimidated so many into inaction. Poor, poor girl.

Yep. Her rapists will be out of prison now. The police could have searched the house she was in but failed to. The parents who let the continuous rape and torture happen under their roof for several weeks should have done jail time in my opinion - being scared of mafia repercussions does not condone their actions.

The law in Japan strikes me as quite strange when it comes to serious crimes like this anyway. Maybe the Yakuza have a foot in the door in the higher echelons of government than we are led to believe?!
For example, the Japanese student who murdered and cannibalised a female fellow student after he became obsessed with eating her He was deported back to Japan and is freely walking the streets.
Some sort of legal loophole in France (where the crime took place) meant that charges were dropped and he was to be held indefinitely in a mental institution. But then he was sent back to Japan and for some reason, his French legal records were sealed, so the Japanese authorities couldn’t detain him or charge him with anything....even though the poor girl’s cannibalised corpse had been found in a suitcase and he was practically caught red handed
I smell a rat somewhere.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issei_Sagawa

I think that they should be subjected to the same torture that they inflicted on their victims

And who do you suggest that inflicts said torture ? As it will have to be another sub human. And a legal person would have to prescribe it . I don’t agree . That’s Saudi style justice

stopfuckingshoutingatme totally with you there.
Capital punishment puts the person carrying out the sentence on the same kind of playing field as the criminal being punished.
I’ll never ever support it.

Someone upthread mentioned the Tool Box Killers, Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris. Apparently Scott Glenn, the actor who played the FBI boss in The Silence of the Lambs, went to the FBI to prepare for his role. They played him an audio tape the Tool Box Killers made of them committing their crimes. Scott Glenn openly wept and said it made him change his liberal stance on the death penalty.

I was intrigued so read the description of their crimes. They're absolutely horrific and I don't want to think about what was on the tape.

@cornishyarg there is a video on YouTube of the Tool Box Murders court case. The door opens at one point and some of the jury come rushing out crying when they were being played the audio of one of the victims being killed. You can hear the high pitched screaming from the audio when the door opens for a couple of seconds and that was enough to make my blood run cold. Laurence Bittaker has been on death row for about 35-40 years now.

Ellabella Oh God, the idea of it makes me shudder. Not sure I can bear to watch that.

@cornishyarg the transcript of the final victim’s murder is beyond awful. Those two bastards were truly evil!

• One that sticks in my mind was something I watched on crime watch years ago. A mother was murdered in her home and her two teenagers came home from school and found her on the bathroom floor, her breasts had been cut off. I always remember that story and wonder how on earth those poor kids ever got over that.*

I'm friends with someone who was in the house when her mother was murdered by a neighbour. It wasn't the case you mentioned but as an example she got married and had children, she's successful but also struggles badly with complex PTSD and has had a couple of breakdowns over the years.

Why did I google tool box murders !

I am lost for words

What most freaks me is how fiction draws on reality

A Kate Atkinson book draws on a high profile murder
The girl with the dragon tattoo has a similar character to one
Mentioned here

I hate torture porn and serial killer glamorisation and reading this (fucking harrowing thread) has made
Me realise truth is worse than fiction

Capital punishment puts the person carrying out the sentence on the same kind of playing field as the criminal being punished.
There was an excellent John Oliver show on lethal injection this week. The problem being that because doctors agree to 'do no harm' that states using lethal injection often have people who don't know the basics of giving an injection. Added to that the first injection isn't even a proper anaesthetic, then the paralysing one kicks in then the burning veins heart attack one. It took one man 43 minutes to die.
I was totally naive and had thought they injected stuff that took seconds and was as pain free as possible like in Belgium when they drink something. I didn't know big pharmas also don't want to be involved in the state act of killing.

''I do not now believe that any one of the hundreds of executions I carried out has in any way acted as a deterrent against future murder. Capital punishment, in my view, achieved nothing except revenge.'' Albert Pierrepoint.
Give me someone like him rather than lethal injection any day. His story is interesting (Timothy Spall played him) www.theguardian.com/film/2006/mar/31/1

I googled the tool box murders. Can’t believe I hadn’t heard of them before! Just horrendous.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine
That’s shocking
While I have zero sympathy for the monsters describe throughout this thread, I can’t be comfortable with the idea of killing them.
In my mind, death is the easy way out for them. They die relatively painlessly and quickly in comparison to many of their victims, and then that’s that. Done. They don’t actually have to live with consequences of their actions, whereas the families of the victims have to deal with it for the rest of their lives.

Pierrepoint took 12 seconds from walking into the condemned cell to breaking the neck with a perfect hangman's fracture in the connecting execution chamber, as opposed to the long walk to the execution chamber, the strapping down, the injections and then 45 minutes to die with lethal injection. If you are going to have capital punishment, I know which one doesn't involve state-authorised torture.

Gosh some of these stories are horrific :( cannot bear the child ones. I really fear for my baby growing up in a world where such evil people are among us.

Yes, he prided himself on how he did the job, it was more a vocation.
''The supreme mercy I can extend to them is to give them and sustain in them their dignity in dying and in death. The gentleness must remain.''

God I wish I hadn't googled the tool box murders

Sick bastards

Some of these, well all of them really, just make you despair of humanity, especially any involving children and those where there has been prolonged torture.

The ones that stick in my mind include

Ian Watkins and his accomplices - the mothers of his victims

A Saudi preacher who tortured and murdered his young daughter - don't Google it unless you have a very strong stomach. I read about it in one of the follow up books to "Princess", a book by a Saudi member of the Royal Family. Just hideous.

The alleged rape of a 2 week old in Northern Ireland last year. I keep thinking about the baby. There is no follow up about his condition as far as I know. Just horrific.

Sophie hook haunted me for ages.
And I’ll never forget Jamie. It’s my first thought if I lose sight of one of mine in public.

Yes I never saw any update about that poor baby in N Ireland.

Can someone explain why the US have people on death row for such a long time? Threads like this make me honestly inflicted about capital punishment but what's the point of keeping someone alive for decades if you are going to kill them?