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Which Crime story has shocked you the most?

487 replies

JoeyBartonHanson · 12/05/2019 00:58

So I have just been watching a documentary about Becky watts murder and everything about it was so shocking.

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ArDali1 · 13/05/2019 19:23

Oh also Jeffrey Dahmer

weepurpleunicorn · 13/05/2019 19:45

I was a police officer for almost 20 years, sadly there are very few crimes that shock me now Sad

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 13/05/2019 20:01

The case of Faruka (the blessed Japanese girl) is playing on my mind

Forgive me , but if they did everything they claimed I cannot see her surviving for
44 days . A few of the atrocities mentioned would have caused internal bleeding and organ rupture and trauma

I am not doubting they are evil beyond compare . I just cannot see a human surviving that level of injury for as long as they claim . Or maybe it got worse to the end . For example the testimony she beat them at mah jong. I cannot see someone with the injuries she had being able to do that .

I just struggle to understand the details being verified when the poor victim was dead and decomposed .

I am NOT doubting her trauma just that her accusers maybe twisted the truth . Anyway . A Story I wish I could unsee

LouH1981 · 13/05/2019 20:02

Poor little James Bulger. He must have been so scared and so alone. It breaks my heart just to think about him, poor little soul. What his Mum has been through, I could never imagine and hope I never have to. 💐

Purplealienpuke · 13/05/2019 20:08

There are so many terrible things that humans do to each other, too many for me list I think.
The worst for me is the one I'm going through right now.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 13/05/2019 20:09

Junko faruta- apolgies for her name

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 13/05/2019 20:13

Purple
I am so sorry to hear that 🙏

Other than the obvious it’s the domestic murders that get me , some horrible tales that rarely even make the news

A woman burnt to death by petrol in front of her kids
The policewoman with 2 kids that was killed by her partner
A man locally who killed his wife then jumped Off beachy head
Some Belgian bitch who locked her kids in the shed , set it on fire then called her estranged husband

Barely known and barely mentioned

Have had such a mental dip since this thread started . It’s really not healthy to think about it all

frogghopper · 13/05/2019 20:18

This thread is bloody depressing! God bless all the innocent victims.

VeniVidiViciTwice · 13/05/2019 20:19

Brandon Teena, broke my heart when I read about him, and what he went through leading up to his murder.

Also, poor Ayeeshia Smith. That poor wee baby.

ziggiestardust · 13/05/2019 20:36

Definitely two stick with me and I think it was because I was so young. It was the realisation that people might want to take me forever from my parents.

I was really young with James Bulger; I was 4 and I was in Reception. I’d really not long started. We’d all heard about it on the news so I suppose the school felt they needed to talk to us about it; the 80s/90s was very different even though it’s not so long ago, in that we were all allowed to watch the news, even when there was some pretty nasty stuff being reported. I remember being about 5 or 6 and asking my Mum what rape meant.

Anyway, the James Bulger case. I remember seeing it on the news and my parents taking to each other and saying what a shame it was. Then school had a special assembly in year groups I think. I remember being sat around Miss Lawson’s feet in the hall with the other reception children and her saying how she was sure we’d all heard about poor little James Bulger, and how he was dead because he’d been taken away by some bad boys, and how we must always hang on tight to our Mummies hands when we were out shopping, and not let go. She told us that we should never go with anyone who weren’t our parents because they might want to take us away from our Mummies and Daddies forever. I was really frightened and I didn’t go out to town with my Mum for ages after that on Saturdays. I was about 8 or 9 when I found out what happened to him from a friend at school who somehow knew all the details in nauseating detail. She had a much older brother so maybe that’s how she knew. I remember feeling dizzy from what she told me and asking my Mum if it was true when I got home, and she told me it was.

The other one was Fred and Rose West. I don’t remember the trial, but I do remember the cameras in their basement/cellar and the news reporter saying how their were ‘more bodies in the walls’. I asked my Dad how they put the bodies there and he told me to be quiet and listen to the news man and maybe we’d find out. I didn’t realise some of the girls were the West’s children until much much later.

GabsAlot · 13/05/2019 20:50

dont know if anyone has mentioned sarah payne never should have been alowed to happen the man was released for attempting kidnapping way too early

dunblane always makes me cry all those children

Vivianebrezilletbrooks · 13/05/2019 20:55

Lynda Mann and Dawn Ashworth.

I grew up in one of those villages and I was a child when both of those murders happened and when it's where you live even years later knowing as an adult what went on practically on your own doorstep as one of the footpaths was nearby it's still shocking. I'm surprised no one else has mentioned it although it was over 30 years ago. It was the first cases solved using DNA fingerprinting.

Becky Watts also. I read she'd tried to tell people that her step brother she was scared of or something along those lines and no one listened.

Mikeymoo12 · 13/05/2019 20:55

Any children's murders just physically sicken me I can't even read about them. But there's two real crimes that have shocked me and that's the investigations into them. Firstly the Yorkshire ripper, an analyst actually managed to link a pattern through the geography of his murders and pinpointed his home to within a certain like radius. It was dismissed at the time but turned out to be correct and tbat was the very early start of geographically profiling. David canter the criminal psychologist has written an interesting book on this called mapping murder. Secondly, the poor lady who was murdered in London whilst her toddler was there in a park. Due to the incompetence of a criminal psychologist the police chased the wrong man and actually dismissed the murderer when he was first suggested to them as this psychologist had convinced them it was the incorrect man. They tried to honey trap the wrong man ruining his life and the policewoman who went along with the honey trap. All whilst the poor victims family waited for answers. Very sad indeed

Supermum29 · 13/05/2019 21:00

A murder of a family I once spent a lot of time with. Truly horrific!

dayswithaY · 13/05/2019 21:02

The killer of Lynda Mann and Dawn Ashworth is a man called Colin Pitchfork and he is set to be released quite soon. He has been pictured on day release shopping in Birmingham. No justice.

Groovee · 13/05/2019 21:11

Many of the ones named.

Mikaeel Kular. I realised the day he was found I knew his mum.

Hannah Dorans. Told dh her murderer would be a monster when he grew up when he was 6. He shook his head at me. But the day he heard, he went rather white.

Also always struggled with the horrific acid attack on Louise Duddy. It happened outside where I lived at the time. The after math still lives with me. Her screams.

EC22 · 13/05/2019 21:12

Anita Cobby, an Australian nurse, wrong place, wrong time, gang raped and murdered. I watched he’s one of these crime programmes and it really affected me.

Vivianebrezilletbrooks · 13/05/2019 21:16

@dayswithaY

I didn't know that! I knew he had parole or something refused some time ago but the justice system is broken when you consider that both murders were landmark cases as well.
I remember reading that Lynda's sister and mother were campaigning for him to be kept inside.
Angry
It's not so long ago that people have forgotten and if he ever returned to the villages he'd get lynched I'm sure.

Vivianebrezilletbrooks · 13/05/2019 21:18

Oops that emoticon should have been after the previous sentence not that one just to be clear.

GarnierBBCream · 13/05/2019 21:20

Andrea Yates's husband should have been on trial with her. He never saw her as anything but a brood mare. He moved states with her to avoid her psychiatrists who had told him she should never have any more children because her psychosis was worsening each time. But nope, he needed a handy receptacle for his seed and a domestic appliance in the home for them (he forced her to homeschool them). She had been released from in patient psychiatric facility just the day or so before the murders because his insurance wasn't paying for her anymore and heaven forbid the man take on debt for his wife's medical care! Instead she was left at home with all those kids.

He has since remarried and sired more children.

Zoejj77 · 13/05/2019 21:21

So I was warned not to read about the Japanese girl -why did I not do as you said

kaitlinktm · 13/05/2019 21:27

The nurse who killed all those babies in the uk (can't think of her name off the top of my head)

Beverley Allitt?

randomncftw · 13/05/2019 21:29

The abuse and neglect and therefore eventual death of the young boy Daniel Pelka gave me nightmares for weeks. I wept over that. His evil ‘mother’ if you can call her that, and stepfather starved him, beat him on a regular basis and often held him under water in the bath to ‘teach him a lesson’. His bedroom was bare except a urine stained mattress on the floor. All his siblings were treated normally. They told his school he had an illness which meant he couldn’t eat food at certain times so he was not allowed food at school. A teacher found him eating a sandwich out of a bin at one stage. I can’t comprehend such evil.

After one particularly brutal beating he died in his room that he’d been locked in, alone, cold and scared.

He was 4 years old.

Sad still breaks my heart every single time I think of him.

randomncftw · 13/05/2019 21:31

I am sitting here lying with my sleeping 2 year old worried about the world she is growing up in Sad

DoxxedFox · 13/05/2019 21:33

I’m not going to google because I don’t want to go down that rabbit hole again, but there was a case of a troubled young girl in America who was being ‘born again’ - ie: she was cajoled in blankets as if trying to battle her way out of the ‘womb’ as adults around her tried to prevent it (to make her work for it - some kind of regressive therapy) and she suffocated. I made the mistake of reading the transcript of her last words and it’s the saddest thing I ever read. She just gave up in end - she was surrounded by people that were supposed to love her. It was so warped.