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MIL demanding to have 3 month old overnight

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ClareSleepy · 03/05/2019 15:59

Please help me reason with DH my MIL has set up her home like a nursery and has been pressuring to have DD at her place overnight practically since she was born. DH is manipulated by her and always tells me he feels so sorry for her. I've told MIL she can visit us and see her granddaughter whenever she likes but she whinges to DH and plays the victim that she can't have DD overnight at her place. I'm made out to be the villain for saying no and DH and I have just argued again about it it's getting me so down. What can I say to make them both back off?

OP posts:
user1480880826 · 03/05/2019 20:07

Your baby is only 3 months old! This is incredibly inappropriate. A 3 month old has only just come out of the 4th trimester and needs its mum 24/7. It would be cruel and unreasonable to separate a small baby from it’s mother.

Teateaandmoretea · 03/05/2019 20:11

If you don’t want your daughter to stay overnight without you it’s up to you, you don’t even need an excuse. You’re the mother, she follows your lead. There’s nothing to say to them, you don’t want her to stay over, end of discussion

^^ this

But what always gets my goat on these threads are the people making out that because they didn't leave their babies until they were 2 it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with little babies being looked after occasionally by grandparents either but the point is that it is up to the parents

Shock horror we went to a wedding when dd1 was 3 months old and left her with DM. It never occured to me that it was an issue and 10 years on I can't see the ill effects either we had a great time.

Everyone's different.

CheesecakeAddict · 03/05/2019 20:12

Your dh feels sorry for his mum but not his own DC crying, not understanding why mummy is not there. Wow. Just wow

MulticolourMophead · 03/05/2019 20:12

nor can this situation cause PND - that's being very disrespectful to women who genuinely DO have PND

OP's DH is not being supportive here, wanting to put his mother's wants above the needs of his wife and child. An unsupportive partner is often a factor in PND, from just a little research.

OP, I think the HV idea may work.

Teateaandmoretea · 03/05/2019 20:12

Yep user that's exactly the type of judgy shit I'm on about Hmm

ASundayWellSpent · 03/05/2019 20:12

I also think she is wanting to play mummy. Getting a baby in their pjs and ready for bed is fun when you only have to do it once, aren't sleep deprived etc. Also, she is looking at this through rosy glasses; what would she do if your baby cries all night for you? Call you at 3am? Not let you know incase you don't let her go again? Going to be a big fat NOPE from me

Also your DH would be driving me mad! Tbf my DH is more assertive with his family than me and just wouldn't let his mum carry on like this. DD2 (2) has never slept anywhere but with us. DD1 (5) has just in the last 9 months starting staying over at grandmas for some big girl time, at her own request, has tea with us, goes there to sleep and back for lunch the next day.

Maybe as some kind of compromise if you were feeling charitable, have MIL to yours for tea and let her do the bath, massage, pjs, snuggles routine if baby will let her. My mum used to ADORE bathing my babies, really made her feel useful and reminded her of when we were all little I guess!

cptartapp · 03/05/2019 20:21

I never understand these threads. No-one ever offered to have our DC. Neither grandparent. I would have killed for a break, any break, let alone a full night off. Now teens it happened twice in fourteen years. I still think YANBU. Stick to your guns and don't get involved in negotiations.

grubblyplank · 03/05/2019 20:29

This happened when my dd1 was little only it was my FIL pestering to have her overnight from a very early age. I was bf at the time so it wouldn’t have even if I was comfortable with it, which I wasn’t.

I told DH at the time that he needed to be clear that it wouldn’t be happening or I would. That soon moved him and the asking stopped shortly after. In fact she never stayed there until she was 6 and hated every minute of it.

Stick to your guns. If you’re not happy then that’s the end of it regardless of how much she complains.

WhatWouldLeighAnneTwohyDo · 03/05/2019 20:43

No. NO. Nononononononononononono. Tell her the more she goes on about it, the more weird and obsessive you consider her behaviour, and the longer it will be before you say yes.

theWarOnPeace · 03/05/2019 21:11

nor can this situation cause PND - that's being very disrespectful to women who genuinely DO have PND

I disagree. Feeling ganged up on, unsupported, and like there’s a chance you’ll be separated from your baby against your wishes can cause all sorts of problems.

When I had my first, my SIL had zero interest in the baby, never wanted to hold him, never asked after him or seemed keen to create any kind of bond or show any love. She was, however, obsessed with having him overnight. It used to make me physically tense up and I’d get stressed and anxious each time she mentioned it. I’d always politely say he’s too little etc etc and try to leave it.

My DH took DS to see MIL and SIL by himself for about an hour, and my DH called to ask (with SIL in the background) “oh, SIL says please can she have him overnight tonight”. She was in the background saying something like “yes stop being silly and let him stay with auntie”. He would have been about 6-7 weeks old and EBF and with one tiny bottle of expressed milk available. I think he asked me on the phone in front of her to just prove that I wouldn’t agree to it and it wasn’t just him saying no. Anyway. I burst into tears and started hyperventilating. I actually thought he would leave the baby there and was on the verge of a full blown panic attack. He started to say something like ‘calm down I’m leaving here now’, and I had taken that to mean he was leaving without the baby and started screaming. Honestly I don’t think I’ve ever lost my shit like that, before or since. I don’t get like that about anything, but the idea of some non-loving person being in sole charge of my baby without me even being prepared for it topped me right over the edge. They’re so persuasive, manipulative and pushy and in that moment I didn’t trust him to listen to me over them. He did listen to me, and reassured me that there’s no way he thought it was a good idea and would never have ignored my wishes, but I’ll never forget that feeling of sheer terror. Almost entirely unjustified in the sense that my DH is very responsible and supportive, and wouldn’t have left the baby there, I logically should have known that.

But what if my my DH had joined in on the pressure? What if my SIL kept coming to us begging (she didn’t, only when we went there), or if everyone else told me I was being weird about my baby and what’s the big deal, why can’t I just lighten up. If my DH kept saying that SIL realllyyyy wanted him overnight and couldn’t I just keep the peace. Why don’t I care about his family or whatever. If I myself felt vulnerable and isolated. I don’t see how people think it’s not psychologically damaging to be pressurised and unsupported in your choices as a new mother. It can ruin your whole experience and damage your confidence in the choices you make. I feel lucky that we had our testing moments as new parents, tests on how to stand out ground and do what we thought was best. Giving into pressure from self centred narc-type parents is a recipe for distaster. Your DH maybe is lost in the F.O.G.

thelastgoldeneagle · 03/05/2019 21:13

She’s had her time with her babies. Now it’s your time.

Sorry, op. Yanbu at all.

mummmy2017 · 03/05/2019 21:16

You tell him, the answer is no...
It will still be no tomorrow.
When you are ready you will ask her to babysit....
Repeat.

DeeCeeCherry · 03/05/2019 21:18

You're the mum she's had her time raising children & that's that. You're not denying her access and I'm sure you won't mind overnights when DC is older so she's just being stupid.

I'm so tired of reading on here about men tied to their mum's fucking apron strings & having the nerve to pressure their wife re whatever whim their precious mummy dreams up. I wish women would give them a wide berth let them stay home with mummy dearest But they always seem to manage to find a wife.

Stand your ground or these 2 will have your nerves in shreds.

rainbowlou · 03/05/2019 21:20

I feel for you I had this from my mum, she constantly told me from day 1(!!!)how unfair it was because I got to cuddle my dc whenever I liked for the next few years and she wanted ‘her chance’
It drove me mad and seriously damaged our relationship.. now mine are older they hardly ever see her because she has always been so full on with them.

SignedUpJust4This · 03/05/2019 21:26

WaronPeace I really feelfor you. I had a similar situation and felt that people thought I was over reacting but I already suffered from anxiety and the thought of someone keeping my baby from me tipped me right over the edge and I couldn't breathe. People need to realise that the mother needs the baby as much as the baby needs the mother. It's an instinctive, primal urge not to be messed with.

Angelicinnocent · 03/05/2019 21:42

This is why I got on so well with my MIL. Ds was ill as a newborn and needed constant attention. DH obviously did weekend nights so I could rest but Monday to Friday I was a zombie from lack of sleep.

She never tried to take him away but would arrive Wednesday teatime with a meal for me, send DH to run a bath and she would stay in the living room with DS all night. I would hear him if he was really upset and needed me but didn't have to be on alert constantly and could get maybe 6 hours solid sleep.

I was so lucky to have her then and it means I tolerate occasional annoyances well.

Playmytune · 03/05/2019 21:47

Don’t get what it is about sons still being tied to their mother’s apron strings even when they are married and have their own family!
It is absolutely ridiculous that you have had to put up with this for weeks despite your dd only being 3 months old. It is also affecting your mh, which is unforgivable. You are being very generous in allowing your mil to visit whenever she likes! I would say to her that the next time she brings this topic up you will tell her to leave and not come back until she stops pressurising you in this way.
If she starts whingeing to your dh, and he takes her part against you, I would tell him to leave with her and mean it!
Do you have any close family or friends where you could stay for a couple of nights if this doesn’t work? Unfortunately if things don’t improve, you will have to re-evaluate your relationship. No one wants to come second to their partner’s dm, especially when they have a child with him!

AlaskanOilBaron · 03/05/2019 21:47

Jeez that's incredibly weird, I'd have though most people would be scared shitless of being left alone with another person's 3 month old overnight. Can't even imagine dealing with that again.

Why on earth would anyone want to have a three month old overnight?

WTF?

cakeandchampagne · 03/05/2019 21:50

No.”

NelleB · 03/05/2019 21:56

Do not do anything you do not want to do.
I’m a very strong person, well before DD 7 months ago (lost my way a bit since) but I’ve has to put my foot down with MIL and SIL.
My DD is 7 months old, she hasn’t stayed anywhere but in her cot, in our home. Why? Because this is where she lives and this is her home where she feels the most safe and secure.

I don’t stop anyone from coming to see her, visitors are always welcome but my MIL hasn’t been round once, off her own back to see baby.

You know what’s best for your baby. A

Gth1234 · 03/05/2019 21:56

I would think until the baby is of milk, and on to solids, it probably isn't reasonable for an overnight stay.

And even then, it's not about treating your baby as a toy.

ClareSleepy · 03/05/2019 21:59

@theWarOnPeace You've summed it up perfectly. Ganged up on and unsupported and it's been like this since DD was born. Being told I need to do what MIL wants because he feels sorry for her. I felt on the verge of a panic attack reading your post as it's so similar to what I'm going through.

OP posts:
hewontstopshitting · 03/05/2019 22:01

My DS2 just turned 3 months old today, and there’s absolutely no way I’d let him stay at anyone else’s house. DS1 has only just started and he’s almost 3. I don’t see why she’s in such a rush to have a tiny baby who shouldn’t be separated from her mum for that long

Stuckforthefourthtime · 03/05/2019 22:06

Is the overnight thing a weird British tradition? DH and I grew up overseas and it's normal to have far too many overinvolved and overattached family members, but none would ever dream of asking to have a tiny baby overnight, or even a toddler in most cases!
Is this an unexpected side-effect of really low bfing rates, or part of the reason they're low? I'm often hearing on here about people whose mums/mils pressure them to introduce a bottle early so that they can feed the baby too (ffing being totally ok, of course, but like nights away, should be the choice of the baby's own mother).

ReganSomerset · 03/05/2019 22:09

Your baby needs to be with you right now. Stick to your guns. YANBU.

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