To share with you the reasons victims of rape should not share the contents of their phone with the police?

[Destinysdaughter]

This blog post starts with the simple line, because it’s victim blaming. To me, this is so clear and so beautifully written, from a woman who was worked with victims of sexual violence for ten years. So she knows what she’s talking about. I urge you to read this and think about it. To me, it will put women off reporting rape even more than they already do and is just taking things in the wrong direction.

My posts are based completely on fact.

And it is not illegal ffs.

Yes, we seize all suspects phones.

I wasn’t talking about suspects, I clearly said “accusers”

But you were doubting that evidence can be contained on phones, I was stating that isn’t always the case.

No, read my full comment

“you think the evidence of rape lies in the phone of a victim who for some reason doesn’t want to share that evidence?”

My doubt was that there was evidence that confirmed rape happened that the victim (who is obviously seeking a conviction) didn’t want to share.

And here from 2018;
''Rape victims’ mobile phones will not be seized ‘as a matter of course’, new director of public prosecutions says''
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/rape-victims-trial-sexual-offences-phone-data-records-seized-cps-prosecutions-max-hill-a8632411.html

Isn’t this all a bit smoke and mirrors? The problem with the recent false allegation cases was that the police and CPS DIDN'T DISCLOSE the evidence they had that proved the defendants were most likely not guilty of rape. Of course they shouldn't ask for an accusers phone as routine, it’s dispicable, but it wouldn’t be unreasonable to investigate messages that might be relevant to the case at a later date. This strikes me as a mix of police trying to push blame for fucking up plus massive cuts equals attitude of ‘we need literally every snippet of your life laid out in front of us in size 14 font to find relevant information or we won’t bother’.

ilove Apologies, i read it as “accused” not “accusers” as we don’t have accusers in Scotland. We have victims/complainers/witness so my brain read accused.

And no, to answer the question be don’t routinely take victims phones unless it is necessary to the investigation.

Exactly, so the texts you saw admitting rape were in your possession because the victim volunteered them. A law forcing victims to hand over phones would have affected that case.

No it wouldn’t have. All that has changed is that victims of serious crime are given a form telling them that by not providing relevant information may affect the outcome in the case.

So if this form existed when I dealt with my case, my victim would have been given the form.

No thats not whats happening, they are being told to comply or the case wont proceed.

Noel I am aware the third example was different, but still an example of false accusations of sexual misconduct. The accusations would have been that a teacher had had sex with an under age girl...