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To find the royal family fascinating part 2

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MagicKingdomDizzy · 29/04/2019 20:43

Hello everyone, here's thread 2.

I'd be very grateful if someone could do a clicky link to the last one. Still can't figure it out.

Thanks!

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Ivgotasecretcanyoukeepit · 30/04/2019 23:03

I can’t see Edward being made Duke or Edinburgh now as why would Charles recreate the title for him when he wants to slim down the monarchy so to speak. There also isn’t an abundance of titles to go around either as proven by the titles that were touted around for William and Harry.

RubberTreePlant · 30/04/2019 23:19

I can sort of see why Clarence hasn't been recreated — the last one was convicted of treason and executed (rumoured to be by drowning in a barrel of wine). It's not exactly what you want to follow, is it?!

He wasn't great, was he?

More recently, there was the older brother of George V, grandson of Queen Victoria, and first fiancé of Mary of Teck, who was completely dissolute, became involved in a rent boy scandal and was suspected of being Jack the Ripper.

Another eldest son who would have made a scandal-prone King.

Nobody can argue with retiring that particular title, I'd have thought.

nakedscientist · 30/04/2019 23:23

Did you pay for any of Eugenie’s wedding?
Are you waiting for DoE to pop his clogs so you can marry Fergie again?
What do you really think of MM? Go on be honest.

Haha, weirdly didn't ask him any of this!

I shook his hand and chatted to him and he was very charming and knowledgable.

lyralalala · 30/04/2019 23:23

I don't think we'll see Clarence or Windsor as titles again.

ByeClaire · 30/04/2019 23:30

TracyBeaker Grin I mean, obviously that's what I meant to say.

(I bet Prince Charles is a closet twerker.)

yolofish · 30/04/2019 23:35

I tried twerking once, in the kitchen - put me back out for days!

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 30/04/2019 23:58

To be fair to Andrew and Sarah despite their faults they seem to be a very happy family and the sisters seem very close. What I don’t understand about the titles situation with Edward and Sophie is they are happy for their children to be Lady and Viscount but not Prince and Princess, I mean if your going to have a choice of titles why not go for the big guns or nothing at all? seems odd to me. On a side note, if my grandmother was the Queen and my mother had refused a title for me, as a child, I would have been gutted!! I so wanted to be a Princess when I was little, Lady would not have cut the mustard with me at all!

TheGlitterFairy · 01/05/2019 00:21

BettyBoo completely agree!!

GeordieGenes · 01/05/2019 01:07

When is Meghan's babydue?

TooManyPaws · 01/05/2019 01:18

There's always the old Scottish royal dukedoms like Albany - last used by one of Victoria's sons. Charles and Camilla use the Scottish heir's title of Duke and Duchess of Rothesay north of the Border. William and Kate are the Earl and Countess of Strathearn, Strathearn being an estate often settled on the Scots Queens Consort to maintain themselves for life. There's probably a few other Scottish royal titles available to QM as well.

ByeClaire · 01/05/2019 01:18

I’m guessing this blind is about our folks

blindgossip.com/the-baby-name-game/#more-98471

MyBlueMoonbeam · 01/05/2019 02:35

GeordieGenes

About a month ago 😆

ByeClaire · 01/05/2019 02:43

Funny you should say that MyBlueMoonbeam I saw something on twitter earlier that quoted a BBC piece that said on Oct 12th that MM had already had her 12 week scan already. And in the middle of Jan she told someone on a visit that she was 6.5 months pregnant.

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Kinsters · 01/05/2019 02:44

Geordie if they announced at 12 weeks on 15 October then the due date would have been a couple of days ago (29 April).

Kinsters · 01/05/2019 02:48

But yeah, everyone's always assumed she was further along than 12 weeks when they announced. She can't have been more than 13 and a bit weeks though otherwise it would be dangerously overdue by now.

ByeClaire · 01/05/2019 03:26

They’d reportedly told the RF on the 12th October at Eugenie’s wedding. So presumably she’d had the 12 week scan by then, even if earlier in the day - doubtful as she was at the wedding. So say she had it the day before on the 11th Oct.

So the latest her 40 week due date could be is 25th April. For ‘geriatric’ mothers (lovely term), of which she is one, the medical advice is usually not to let them go too much beyond the due date.

Humpy84 · 01/05/2019 03:38

@byeclaire shes totally had the baby

My obgyn wouldn’t let me go beyond a few days. One of the most in demand obgyns here wont let mothers go beyond 3 days. There has got to be an obgyn in the picture. Different obgyns have different rules and blood pressure, risks etc come into it. In general though they no longer let you go too far over. I think midwife lead births different story.

Anyone had a top obgyn in London or Windsor that wishes to impart wisdom ?

Humpy84 · 01/05/2019 03:48

Just looking at her bump on the Australian tour it was very visible even though shes tiny and fit. She cant have been less than 12 weeks when it was announced.

If she was 12 weeks when it was announced on 15 October, then that would make he 40 weeks and 3 days today. If she was 12 weeks at Eugenies wedding and desperate to announce and couldn’t, hence the maternity coat she wore, then that’d make her 6 days overdue today.

The ambulance was spotted 4 days ago which is when I think she had the baby at home.

What I think is most telling is her bump on the Australian and Fiji tour which was more like a 13/14 week bump.

I think she’s absolutely had baby.

ByeClaire · 01/05/2019 03:55

The BBC said when they announced on the 14/15th Oct that she said she’d already had the 12 week scan. Highly unlikely they’ll make a public announcement on day of scan and the implication was that it hadn’t been that day. It’s widely agreed they told the RF on the 12th Oct. Highly unlikely they’d do that unless they had the scan.

I think the baby’s been born and it’s a girl.

PomPomtheGreat · 01/05/2019 04:03

When was Eugenie's wedding? Meghan was already massive by then.

ByeClaire · 01/05/2019 04:16

Eugenie’s wedding = still the 12th October 2018

lyralalala · 01/05/2019 04:42

10 days max was what said they’d allow me to go over. London hosp, but not the private part!

That involved daily monitoring, which wouldn’t be an issue for someone willing to pay.

There was one woman who was 14 days over when I eventually went at 8 days over. They were piling the pressure on her every day about the placenta degrading, but she was adamant and there was nothing they could do. I didn’t see her at any point after I went into labour and I was in hospital for 3 days post birth so I do often wonder what became of her.

lyralalala · 01/05/2019 04:45

I think the key thing to her expected date was her mum arriving on Thursday or Friday. I think she’d be here for the due date so I think she was due Monday or Tuesday. So she’s over, but only just - which isn’t totally unusual for a first.

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 01/05/2019 04:57

Someone in Berkshire posted that their local radio station had seen a car with a police escort heading to Frimley Park yesterday.
So it could well be #SussexStandby

Maybe Meghan was induced to have a 1st May baby.

The sun sneaked inside Frimley Park Birthing suite. Hidden camera.

The pool room with mood lights looks awesome!

desertgirl · 01/05/2019 05:01

lyralalala, the Queen didn’t review protocol for Camilla or anyone else; protocol has always (or at least in the last couple of centuries) given precedence to daughters (or granddaughters) of the monarch over daughters (or granddaughters) in law without their husbands. Princess May, who because Queen Mary, despite being the future Queen, took a back seat to Edward VII’s daughters, the ‘Whispering Waleses’, who I don’t think she had a lot of respect for.