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To find the royal family fascinating part 2

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MagicKingdomDizzy · 29/04/2019 20:43

Hello everyone, here's thread 2.

I'd be very grateful if someone could do a clicky link to the last one. Still can't figure it out.

Thanks!

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AppleKatie · 30/04/2019 21:26

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.inquisitr.com/4503790/prince-andrew-protecting-blood-princesses-was-palace-power-play-meant-to-help-beatrice-and-eugenie/amp/

This is probably nonsense but it puts a different slant on the story.

MissEliza · 30/04/2019 21:26

Meghan's hair started to fall apart at the back . I think that's shocking. I remember reading that Kate's hairdressers practiced again and again to make sure it would stay put. I liked the shape of Meghan's dress but it didn't fit properly. Surely paying a six figure sum should guarantee you a perfectly fitting dress?!

lyralalala · 30/04/2019 21:33

I think the Queen (deliberately or otherwise) started the whole 'blood princess' thing with her review of protocol when Camilla was joining.

It suited the family to have the four 'blood princesses' as higher ranking, and more important, than Camilla because they wanted them to be.

They then seemed surprised when Andrew felt that that importance should continue.

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 30/04/2019 21:33

I was disappointed with Meghan’s hair on her wedding day, it looked like she had just scrunched it up for a bath, messy but not in a good way. She has had some lovely up do’s but her wedding hair was not one of them.

Daisypie · 30/04/2019 21:36

I think the RF problem is not so much with the York girls as with their father. Andrew has floated around between being an embarrassment and a liability for decades. They don't want a dynasty of that.

MissParple · 30/04/2019 21:38

I'd love if Andrew's chickens came home to roost.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 30/04/2019 21:42

I think the Duchess of Kent is a very kind woman, remember when she comforted the late Yana Navotna?

That's exactly what I was thinking of, @BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo

BestIsWest · 30/04/2019 21:47

The Duchess Of Kent always used to present the trophies at Wimbledon until they refused to let her take Philip Lawrence’s son into the Royal Box because he wasn’t a royal. She more or less boycotted after that and went up in my estimation.

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 30/04/2019 21:49

Whatever their failings, you have to hand it to the Yorks, their girls are a credit to them. They've had a fair bit of negative press to put up with and I'm not aware of any whining from either of them.

AppleKatie · 30/04/2019 21:52

Yes (and it’s hard to type this without sounding sarcastic but I don’t mean to be). Their position is a tough one they were born titled, they had no say in that and yet it’s not a level playing field between them and any of their cousins. They are in a very awkward position and fashion aside they seem to handle it quite well.

TunstallTansy · 30/04/2019 21:59

The Duchess Of Kent always used to present the trophies at Wimbledon until they refused to let her take Philip Lawrence’s son into the Royal Box because he wasn’t a royal. She more or less boycotted after that and went up in my estimation.

Me too.

Regarding Beatrice and Eugenie, I'm from a working class background in the north so very far removed from anyone who'd have a clue on what convention was about titles and babies - I remember family and friends being very surprised B&E had titles. I think the logic was that Anne's kids had no titles so people had (wrongly) assumed she'd set a precedent and her younger brothers would follow suit.

Iamnotagoddess · 30/04/2019 22:02

They are in a very awkward position and fashion aside they seem to handle it quite well

The outfits at the Cambridge wedding were a fashion crime.

lyralalala · 30/04/2019 22:04

I think the logic was that Anne's kids had no titles so people had (wrongly) assumed she'd set a precedent and her younger brothers would follow suit.

I wonder if Princess Margaret's children being titled made it seem like Anne had made a choice to decline a title, rather than a choice for Mark Phillips not to be given a title?

The same outcome, but a slightly different perception.

BettyBooJustDoinTheDoo · 30/04/2019 22:06

Beatrice’s coat was lovely, the pretzel hat not so much, but she took all the criticism in her stride and with good humour and then auctioned it off for charity.

MissEliza · 30/04/2019 22:11

I think Andrew has made his children's lives so much harder by not accepting they will become more and more irrelevant as time goes by. They both seem lovely tbh.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 30/04/2019 22:17

On the subject of the very kind Duchess of Kent, it seems she's returned to teaching and in a very topical role:

royalcentral.co.uk/uk/the-kents/the-duchess-of-kent-returns-to-teaching-to-give-an-education-to-children-who-lived-in-grenfell-tower-104572

yolofish · 30/04/2019 22:18

agree that Beatrice and Eug (awful name though!) seem to be pretty well adjusted young women, despite their upbringing. HandysAndy has always been a shit, and poor old Fergie was completely out of her depth - should have married some bloke in red cordoruoys who worked in the City and did a bit of huntin shootin and fishin and skiin -she'd have been much happier.

Meghan and the wedding dress - I thought she looked bloody amazing! disagree that it was ill-fitting, it just kind of skimmed her body. I could never, in a million years, look as beautiful as she did. (and I'm not just saying that either!)

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 30/04/2019 22:24

Why can’t the Queen recreate the Duke of Edinburgh title straight away for Edward?
She’s the Queen, at least with titles she can do whatever she wants.
Technically it’s hrh Princess Louise and hrh Prince James but they are styled as Viscount and Lady

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 30/04/2019 22:29

I actually think the York girls having no full time role is actually just that they aren't needed.

To give them a role would mean taking patronages and the likes away from the Kents and Gloucesters, which would be a pretty shit repayment given the work they've done over the years.

I think the assorted Kents & Gloucesters would be delighted to finally be able to retire in their 70s and 80s.
Eugenie and Beatrice would be great for Royal duties. They have the innate confidence, and as opposed to the extreme of Their Mother’s sometimes over enthusiasm, they are always cheerful and smiley.

yolofish · 30/04/2019 22:36

what curly said above!

lyralalala · 30/04/2019 22:37

Why can’t the Queen recreate the Duke of Edinburgh title straight away for Edward?
She’s the Queen, at least with titles she can do whatever she wants.

Because Philip's titles will go to Charles when Philip dies. You can't have two DOE's so it'll have to wait unti Charles is King, which is when all of his other titles will go back to being available, for it to be recreated.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 30/04/2019 22:46

I can sort of see why Clarence hasn't been recreated — the last one was convicted of treason and executed (rumoured to be by drowning in a barrel of wine). It's not exactly what you want to follow, is it?!

ByeClaire · 30/04/2019 22:47

On one hand, I'm all for as few royals as possible having royal duties. On the other, make 'em werk.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 30/04/2019 22:49

ByeClaire you've made me spit my drink out as I've just read your post as make em twerk 🤣

EdithSitwell · 30/04/2019 22:57

Prince Philip is rumoured to have had an affair with a young Princess Alexandra years ago. I find this hard to believe as the Queen seems to have a very warm relationship with Alexandra.