To find the royal family fascinating part 2

[MagicKingdomDizzy]

Hello everyone, here's thread 2.

I'd be very grateful if someone could do a clicky link to the last one. Still can't figure it out.

Thanks!

I wonder if his position would be challenged by it. Or would it just be hers?

Goodness only knows, lyra - I really meant "his position" in the widest sense, if someone wanted to make an issue of it

Given the self-pitying references to the "intolerable burdens" he has to carry I can only imagine his response to any such challenge, but one thing's for sure ... I wouldn't want to be anywhere in the vicinity!!

You have to wonder why they didn't just do something that make some sort of morganatic marriage possible rather than faffing around with secret reports and government dramas.

Although I firmly think Charles will want, and expect, his wife to be Queen so probably he wouldn't have gone for it.

Given the self-pitying references to the "intolerable burdens" he has to carry I can only imagine his response to any such challenge, but one thing's for sure ... I wouldn't want to be anywhere in the vicinity!!

Yes, he's been at perfectly at liberty to say 'nah. The heir to the throne gig is not for me. I'll renounce my place in the line of succession and go and live as a private citizen' , but that'd mean giving up unearned power, privilege and deference.

Why didn't the government not just change the law I wonder?

I don't pretend to know, but maybe the Labour government of the time didn't want to be party to an exception being made for Charles and Camilla?

I don't pretend to know, but maybe the Labour government of the time didn't want to be party to an exception being made for Charles and Camilla?

Better that than to be tainted by a cover up I'd think.

Although I wonder how much the Church of England would have resisted a change to the law.

They might have grudgingly accepted a one off in that situation (particularly as Charles didn't have a living ex wife), but they likely would have objected strongly to a change in the law that meant the head of their church could marry elsewhere anytime.

Allegedly that particular government had a real liking for D notices anyway....

This is all very ironic considering the C of E was established so a certain king could get a divorce!

It appears they did object, lyra - after all, they could just have rolled over and agreed to marry C&C but chose not to, and considering the links between church and monarchy that's another reason I've always wondered exactly what went on behind the scenes

Anyway, see you on Thread 3

That's true puzzled.

I wonder if there was a deal to be done for them. Allow him to marry without too much fuss and do the blessing to prevent any permanent change to the law which means future heirs don't have to marry in the church.

I wonder if there was a deal to be done for them. Allow him to marry without too much fuss and do the blessing to prevent any permanent change to the law which means future heirs don't have to marry in the church.

In the end, they basically get to make it up as they go along, and courtiers and politicians make up a rationale for whatever they want to do. Or for whatever is politically expedient.

I might be a bit strange in the way I think, but the debate around Charles marriage to Camilla kept making me think (at the time) about his Canaervon (Sp?) investiture ceremony when he was twenty one. (Bear with me here )

The whole investiture, all the pomp and ceremony, was dreamt up by Antony Armstrong Jones from scratch. It was completely faux. Like a broadway or west end production. Even the "crown" was made like a prop and topped off with a ping pong ball sprayed gold.

The ping pong crown, at Caernarfon.

RubberTreePlant

That Ping Pong crown is hilarious! And they both look so serious about it

Wasn't it the first investiture since the 1600s?

Why? What was the point of it?

I'd have been pretty hacked off if that's what my grandparents had come up with to celebrate my 21st!

Its very sixties, isn't it? I wonder where it is now?

A couple of Welsh nationalist terrorists has accidentally blown themselves up the night before, fluffing an attempt to disrupt the ceremony. I wouldn't be surprised if they were both terrified, TBF

Wasn't it the first investiture since the 1600s?

Was it really? No wonder they had to dream it all up from scratch.

RubberTreePlant

It's probably got pride of place in Charles' bedroom. Maybe he models it in front of the mirror every so often and wonders if it's the only crown he'll get!

I'm at the Terrorist attack attempt. That's pretty scary!

Do you think he was thinking "Queen's get the Koh i noor diamond and I get this

Oh look nearly full

That pic though looks like he's looking at the ping pong ball thinking ffs

He's not enough of a thesp. That's the problem. Edward would have lived all that l

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"Alas poor ping pong I knew him well"

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