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To find the royal family fascinating part 2

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MagicKingdomDizzy · 29/04/2019 20:43

Hello everyone, here's thread 2.

I'd be very grateful if someone could do a clicky link to the last one. Still can't figure it out.

Thanks!

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ByeClaire · 02/05/2019 13:52

Ooh we’re on page 39. Will Baby Sussex come before this thread ends?

Maraki12 · 02/05/2019 13:53

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2019 13:55

No prob MissEliza Smile For all I know they may be, but a man who had the report into the validity of his "marriage" hidden is hardly likely to publicise private medical information

... and rightly so this time

lyralalala · 02/05/2019 14:13

Several royals in the past are documented to have suffered from gout.

MissEliza · 02/05/2019 15:07

@Puzzledandpissedoff What report about the validity of his marriage? Sounds intriguing!
Somehow I imagine that Charles isn't quite as healthy living as his parents.

TooManyPaws · 02/05/2019 15:21

One of my news apps said this morning that the ITN royal reporter said that baby definitely hadn't been born yet so they may be keeping trusted media in the loop.

lyralalala · 02/05/2019 15:29

@MissEliza there is/was a lot of debate and doubt over the validity of a civil marriage for the head of the Church of England (as he’ll be). A lot of people believe that under the marriages Act the Prince of Wales must marry in a church with a minister/vicar officiating.

happyandbusy · 02/05/2019 15:52

Oooh, interesting re the marriage!

OVienna · 02/05/2019 15:55

Can whoever starts the new thread please make sure to link it here!

MissEliza · 02/05/2019 16:06

Thanks Lyra.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2019 16:11

*@MissEliza * here you go ... apologies for it being a Daily Fail link, but their coverage isn't too bad on this:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1265095/Charles--Camilla-marriage-Legal-advice-sealed-Princes-death.html

MissEliza · 02/05/2019 16:14

@Puzzledandpissedoff Thank you. I've never heard about this.

MissEliza · 02/05/2019 16:20

Just read it. Why didn't the government not just change the law I wonder?

lyralalala · 02/05/2019 16:23

It gets a bit iffy when royals are using the Human Rights act to protect their position,

It’s one of the things that I think makes the whole Camilla title saga interesting.

Charles will absolutely want her to be Queen Camilla. If she’s not crowned and goes by some sort of Princess Consort title it’ll add credence, imo, to the suggestion that their marriage isn’t totally legal.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2019 16:41

It gets a bit iffy when royals are using the Human Rights act to protect their position

Especially when they're on record for criticising that same legislation when it suits - yet another example of his overwhelming hypocrisy, entitlement and petulance

Given the number of powerful folk Charles has offended over the years, I've often wondered if someone will use the the allegedly invalid marriage to challenge Charles's position when the Queen goes

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2019 16:44

BTW does anyone want a Thread 3? More than happy to start one if so ...

BishopBrennansArse · 02/05/2019 16:48

part 3 for when we need it

BishopBrennansArse · 02/05/2019 16:48

Oops sorry if I jumped the gun...

ByeClaire · 02/05/2019 16:50

We’ve got 31 posts to go!

ByeClaire · 02/05/2019 16:50

That was an observation not a criticism btw Wink

noodlenosefraggle · 02/05/2019 16:57

Didn't they have a blessing in the Church of England though? All a church marriage is is a church blessing plus a legal marriage, officiated by a priest. I thought it was a story concocted by Diana nutcases.

BishopBrennansArse · 02/05/2019 16:59

There's been some legal jiggery pokery to enable the marriage. Thing is though I'm not even anti it I know she was the OW and all that but you know....

lyralalala · 02/05/2019 17:01

Especially when they're on record for criticising that same legislation when it suits - yet another example of his overwhelming hypocrisy, entitlement and petulance

Given the number of powerful folk Charles has offended over the years, I've often wondered if someone will use the the allegedly invalid marriage to challenge Charles's position when the Queen goes

I wonder if his position would be challenged by it. Or would it just be hers?

If his marriage is illegal and invalid then she's not the Queen and that's that.

It depends if the act of marrying is the illegal bit or not. Or if it's just that spouse wouldn't be royal because the marriage basically doesn't exist in law.

It would be interesting to see the exact Letters Patent regarding Camilla's titles and the advice around that.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2019 17:02

Take a bow, BishopBrennansArse Grin

lyralalala · 02/05/2019 17:03

Didn't they have a blessing in the Church of England though? All a church marriage is is a church blessing plus a legal marriage, officiated by a priest. I thought it was a story concocted by Diana nutcases.

Yeah, but they married in a civil ceremony. The blessing wasn't the legal part of it and it's the legal marriage part that is in question. That's the part that does or doesn't make Camilla Queen, and potentially makes him breach the marriage act.