To find the royal family fascinating part 2

[MagicKingdomDizzy]

Hello everyone, here's thread 2.

I'd be very grateful if someone could do a clicky link to the last one. Still can't figure it out.

Thanks!

I must be really bored at work as I keep checking for any news of baby Sussex!

I know what you mean about Sophie. I was so disappointed when I read this:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophie,_Countess_of_Wessex

In April 2001, Sophie appeared in the media after she was misled in a meeting at the Dorchester by a News of the World reporter posing as an Arab sheikh, Mazher Mahmood,[117][118] who was later exposed for perjury in Southwark Crown Court.[119] It was claimed by the newspapers that during their "secretly taped" conversation, the Countess had insulted the Royal Family and politicians, calling the Queen "old dear", and referring to Cherie Blair as "absolutely horrid, horrid, horrid", as well as criticising the leadership of Prime Minister Tony Blair and Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown, and mocking Leader of the Opposition William Hague's appearance.[117][118][120] It was reported by the Mail on Sunday and Sunday Mirror that the Countess subsequently had sent apology letters to Blair, Hague and Prince Charles.[117]

DH just told me a rumour that the royal website may have accidentally pressed Enter too soon and revealed gender and name of M&H's baby? He doesn't care the slightest but I've been reading him bits off of here

Re Mrs Wessex - if any of us had represented our firm/employer like that we’d have been sacked! Like Philip before them it seems nothing the royal parasites do is ever bad enough to lose taxpayer funding for their pampered idle lives

The DofE was very handsome as a young man. No wonder no one could talk the Queen out of it!

yes that's disappointing of Sophie. I always hope that some of them will be both nice in public and nice in private!
Good that the her are well behaved though. I know there were some thoughts of James having issues with crowds/sensory issues etc and always thought how well he coped with things like the weddings, and how hard that must have been for him if it's true. No real idea if it is though, as obviously information about the children would be private.

Just thinking generally about being a child in a royal family, I can't imagine how hard it might be if they were at all shy or anxious or anything. I know they get trained for it from toddlerhood (the ones in line for actual royal roles later) but you can't change a child's personality that much, and however hard I was encouraged to be different, I'd still have had problems with anxiety. And the Queen's father's stuttering, must have been exacerbated terribly with things like anxiety and there's just no room for flexibility in a job like that.

rubbertreeplant I was just trying to say that genetic diversity in a family who has a smaller genetic pool can only be a good thing. Also, the baby will be beautiful and interesting is all. People criticised WIlliam for marrying someone middle class but as you can see by their children it was a better choice than marrying a 3rd aristocratic cousin.

Yes I know you were @Humpy84. I just suddenly went all "free the royals".

Someone here mentioned Pippa and George Percy , Is if true he wanted to marry her but his parents apposed to it?

it's the short time / long distance thing prior to marriage that's concerned me from the start.

Doesn't it remind you a bit of Diana saying that she'd met Charles just 15 (?) times before he proposed.

Obviously jumping straight into African tents together ratchets up the intimacy a bit, but I do wonder how many days h&m spent together pre-engagement. Of course it seemed to Prince "ten year courtship" William.

She’s already had the baby 👶

I feel strongly about this.

She wants time before the media circus and to look all ‘so famous don’t need to try’/‘too cool to try’/‘so royal have to go under radar’

Except don’t want to annoy media and fans by making them wait for photos and announcements which they’d have to if people knew she was in labour

That ambulance didn’t stop for lunch. Totally for baby.

Baby due late was sad to be late April and they usually say due dates are later than actual due dates.

The queen doesn’t just call in for visits, not when her water could break at any moment and I’ve just never heard of her doing house calls or it being announced.

I have no idea re Pippa. I have family up in Northumberland and someone once mentioned that the Duchess isn’t showy, does a lot of charity stuff etc - so maybe they could see through her a bit? They also didn’t want him going off the rails by the sound of this from Wikipedia:

He became heir apparent to the dukedom in October 1995, when his uncle Henry, 11th Duke of Northumberland, died. Percy's parents, now Duke and Duchess of Northumberland, were eager to protect him from "vices and pitfalls", and they filed a lawsuit to prevent him from inheriting £1 million and a £350,000 annual income upon turning 18. In 1999, they succeeded in delaying the inheritance, which Percy received at the age of 25. Percy is also set to inherit Alnwick Castle.[1]

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6277941/amp/Lady-Melissa-Percy-describes-life-growing-run-Harry-Potter-castle.html

One of the Percy daughters was married to Thomas van Straubenzee (Charlotte’s godfather) but they are now divorced. But she has remained friends with Chelsy Davy. They are all so connected!

www.instagram.com/russian_treasure/ - FYI

I reckon she's had the baby too. If she was living In Windsor and went into labour while Harry was attending one of his recent engagements in London, it could take quite a while for him to get to her. I reckon he only went to those engagements because she'd had the baby and he knew he was safe to leave her.

They are All so connected which brings me to gossip theory 879 on this thread..

I think Norfolk Rose was upset and whispers started to emerge because neither she nor or her husband were at the weddings of Harry or Eugene. This fits with the timing and talk of her being banished even though she’s in with the Norfolk set. I think the royal weddings would matter because it’s a mix of celebrities and every aristocrat. Plus, her husband “mr rose” is in with the royals. Plus she sat next to Harry at a state dinner so they must have some sort of friendship, strange she wasn’t at his wedding but was at willy’s. I know wedding invitations are what really annoys people, not being invited to something big is like social blacklisting or possibly for her royal blacklisting.

Just a theory. Just a theory.

MissParple

Oh yes, very dishy. Still think DoE has the edge. Looks a bit rougher

Puzzledandpissedoff

An 18 year old Greek naval officer. It was a no brainer for Liz really!

My daughter met Sophie 20 years ago when she was having (daughter) her wedding dress fitted. Daughter said they all seemed to be in a bit of a flap and they told her Sophie was coming in for some evening dresses. Anyway, eventually she arrived and somebody told her there was a bride in having her dress fitted. Sophie said 'Oh I must see her' and came and had a chat about the wedding and wished her lots of luck. Daughter said she was delightful.

Another insight. Sophie had a close relative who lived in our village, so consequently had spent a lot of time there and was well known and liked in the village. When the relative died Sophie came to the funeral on her own. She was just as she always had been with everyone calling her by her first name. No side to her at all.

Apparently "Allegra" has suddenly received a surge of bets at the bookies. It's the name Diana had picked out for any DD of hers.

The bookmaker firms must have investigators all over these rumours of concealed birth etc. They could get ripped off in a major way if they don't know when to stop accepting bets, or how to pay out on "when will baby arrive" bets.

I don't think her sitting next to Harry at the state dinner has anything to do with her closeness to him - that'll all be down to her husband's position at court. There's a really strict protocol at state dinners.

Having googled Mr Rose he's got a formal position at court as Lord Great Chamberlain and he was a Page of Honour to the Queen beforehand.

He has the same order (although Knight rather than Dame obvs) that Kate received the other day for his service to her Maj.

I don't think them not being invited to Harry or Eugenie's wedding would be that surprising as they weren't remotely state occasions. Whereas William's I think they would have been invited even if they weren't friends as there was a bit of a state element about his (even though they said there wasn't).

My daughter met Sophie 20 years ago when she was having (daughter) her wedding dress fitted. Daughter said they all seemed to be in a bit of a flap and they told her Sophie was coming in for some evening dresses. Anyway, eventually she arrived and somebody told her there was a bride in having her dress fitted. Sophie said 'Oh I must see her' and came and had a chat about the wedding and wished her lots of luck. Daughter said she was delightful.

Another insight. Sophie had a close relative who lived in our village, so consequently had spent a lot of time there and was well known and liked in the village. When the relative died Sophie came to the funeral on her own. She was just as she always had been with everyone calling her by her first name. No side to her at all.

No need for The Cholmondeleys to have felt left out, many royals were not invited, they needed the seats for Oprah and The Clooneys.

Allegra is nice! Classical but cool and unstuffy.

Doesn't (the short time/long distance thing) remind you a bit of Diana saying that she'd met Charles just 15 (?) times before he proposed

Yes, RubberTree, it very much does. I know it raised the eyebrows of some when W&K lived together before marriage in Anglesey, but at least nobody could ever say they married without knowing much about each other

It guarantees nothing of course, but it's surely got to be better than marrying a virtual stranger

My DH stood on Sophie's foot at a gala dinner thing once just before she and Edward were married. He apologised and she was very nice about it. I was there too, sat next to some rugby player who turned out to be very famous (not bum-chin Carling) but I didnt have a clue!

At the risk of sounding like I'm trying to play devil's advocate, the long distance part can actually build a really strong foundation to a relationship because the only thing you can do is talk to each other.

DH and I were long distance for a while in the early days and it meant we discussed everything because were weren't distracted by nights out, sex, families or anything else. The only thing we had was MSN messenger and text messages. Then phone calls.

I've never had a relationship before where I've discussed everything from sport to wills (we both had children), discipline for children, schools, long term health care before actually going out on that many actual dates.

The short term thing is more of an issue granted, but the long distance might not actually be a negative as you are forced to talk to each other.

I know there were some thoughts of James having issues with crowds/sensory issues etc and always thought how well he coped with things like the weddings, and how hard that must have been for him if it's true. No real idea if it is though, as obviously information about the children would be private.

He was said to be having a role at Eugenie's wedding, similar to Louise being bridesmaid wrangler, but ended up sitting with his parents instead. Maybe he just couldn't cope with the actuality on the day.